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Ask TV Squad: Why are we so whiney?

by Joel Keller, posted Jan 3rd 2006 4:36PM
Why are we so whiny?During the weekend our comments were down, we got a pleasant little e-mail from a woman named Sandra. She was responding to Jonathan's post that gave five reasons to kill the CSI character Nick Stokes.

Sandra's eight-point missive told us a number a different things that we didn't really know about ourselves; namely, that we were "presumptuous", "shallow", and "stupid". At least our arguments were characterized that way. But what really struck me was this statement:

"7. Your website is pretty bland. This was my first time coming here and probably my last since I don't think I've met such a group of cantankerous writers in my life. I hate whiney writers."

She then signed off by calling us "Scrooges" and "Grinches."  At least she was in the holiday spirit.

Whiney? Cantankerous? Us? Well, maybe, but we're only that way because we care.

Actually, I don't really agree with Sandra; I personally think my fellow TV Squadders and I are more positive about TV and its contents than your average beaten-down newspaper TV critc, who's seen it all and thinks that things aren't as good now as they were when Norman Lear had eight shows on at once. No, I think we have a healthy appreciation for the different genres that TV offers, and we each have our own preferences: some of us like sitcoms, others drama, others reality. Heck, some of us even like game shows (well, Bob and I like them, at least).

When a show delivers the goods, like Arrested Development's been doing all season, it's a cause for celebration; we laugh hard if it's a comedy, or are emotionally engrossed if it's a drama. If there's suspense, our hearts pound in anticipation, and if there's something to cheer about, we applaud. If I watch a particularly satisfying episode of a series, for instance, I will do just that: applaud like I would if I was in a theatre watching a fantasitc play (yes, I need to get out more).

But when a show falls flat, especially one that we've relied on for quality entertainment, we're sorely disappointed. Not just because the show wasted our time, or that we're kicking ourselves for tuning into the show in the first place. Our disappointment stems from the fact that we remember the feeling that that show, or one like it, gave us when it reached its creative peak. We were happy that we spent a half-hour or hour with those characters and writers, and wanted to see more as soon as the show was over. When we don't achieve that feeling, we walk away disheartened. And, because we have a platform in which to do this, we vent about the letdowns our favorite shows give us.

Saturday Night Live is the best example of both the highs and the lows. In its good years, viewers like us would repeat lines from sketches like they were favorite songs. That's why, when it sucks like it does this year, we rag on the show so much; we want it to be good, we want to laugh. So when something comes along that is as funny and entertaining as "Lazy Sunday", we get excited, perhaps to the point of overpraising it. But we do it because it reminds us of how good SNL can be on the (now infrequent) times that it reaches its potential.

So, dear Sandra, we might be a bit grumpy about our TV at times. But it's only because we don't like being let down by it, whether we're watching Masterpiece Theatre or Beauty and the Geek. If you remember that, you'll like what we have to say here a whole lot better.

We bitch because we care. Maybe we should put that on a t-shirt...

[P.S. I got the cool baby photo from BBC.co.uk. Thanks, Beebsters!]

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Emily

Expression of one's opinion is what makes TVSquad great! Just because a writer's opinion differs from your own shouldn't make you pout, Sandra. How boring would TV be if we all liked the same thing?

Re: George Eads. I don't get personally involved with television characters so I could care less if one of them is written out so long as it makes the program better. People that get personally insulted when Nik didn't win ANTM or George Eads possibly leaving CSI kind of scare me since it appears they can't discern the difference between TV and real life.

TVSquad whiney? Nope. Irreverant? Yep Controversial? Sometimes. Entertaining? Always!

January 04 2006 at 11:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joe

I know this is kind of dead, second page and everything, but check out the funniest part of her e-mail:

"I hate the West Wing, but I don't expect everyone else too and I'm not going to waste my time writing about how much I hate the show."

Looks like she wasted some of her own precious time telling you (in writing) that she hated the West Wing. Oh, and if you're reading this Sandra, write in RTF next time. These damn whiney TV Squadders are too lazy to change your e-mail. :D

January 04 2006 at 10:15 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SamMalone

If you're not supposed to comment on shows you're critical of, then why is she emailing about a site she isn't likely to visit again???

January 04 2006 at 9:30 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mandy

If I were to follow Sandra's advice by not watching any ensemble show because I disliked one character, have to find a hobby because all my evenings would be free.

January 03 2006 at 9:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Zarquon

This email illlustrates one of my pet peeves -- too quick to comment! In my opinion, one of the rules of internet courtesy is to lurk a little before posting. If she can come out with an eight point missive on her first visit, she's at best over-stimulated and at worst, a troll. And one should never feed trolls.

January 03 2006 at 7:19 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
LC

For someone who is unimpressed with the site and it's writers, she seems unusually drawn to it as is evidenced by her saying she will make another visit and possibly reply.

Apparantly she doesn't appreciate others opinions about a character on a show, but has no problem pointing out the faults in other characters on the same show.

Personally I don't want to see Eads go precisely because I think all the characters work well off of each other as none are detatched. If they had to absolutely let someone go for good it should be that female CSI that became a detective and just appears for 2 minutes on most episodes.

January 03 2006 at 7:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bebop

if she's using words like "cantankerous" I think it's safe to say she's being quite the curmudgeon.

January 03 2006 at 5:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
MW

Hey, I like game shows too. Jeopardy, anyway.

And I get the distinct impression that "Sandra" is actually George Eads. Or maybe his publicist. Though the arguments of "You do better" and "None of you are as good looking as he is" are quite compelling.

January 03 2006 at 5:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
MW

Hey, I like game shows too. Jeopardy, anyway.

And I get the distinct impression that this "Sandra" actually is George Eads, or maybe his publicist.

January 03 2006 at 5:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lyndon

I thought the original post was interesting. Sandra's just upset, because she's probably a huge fan of George Eads. The only one being whiney is her.

January 03 2006 at 5:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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