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Complaints over Black.White

by Adam Finley, posted Mar 13th 2006 12:32PM

black.white complaintsSo, which one of ya'll are watching Black.White? I think the show sounds interesting, but I can't help but be turned off by the transformation of one race to another, which I don't think ever looks natural, even if it is done by a highly-qualified team of cinematic make-up artists. The best one can hope for is to try and not look creepy and disconcerting, which I think is impossible.

That seems to be the least of the show's problems, though. It turns out some people weren't happy with the original pilot, and some things had to be changed before it hit the airwaves last Wednesday. A sequence that allegedly took place at an exclusive "all white" country club involving one of the show's characters, Brian Sparks, disguised as a white man, was previewed on Oprah. That scene was changed when the owner of the pro-shop insisted his was a public facility where anyone could play. References to it being exclusive were deleted when the show aired.

So what do you guys think? Ice Cube is calling Black.White a "social experiment" but is it in danger of relying too heavily on the "forced reality" of other shows? Can it still make its point despite that?

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Sonny Pittman

The problem with Black and White was a serious flaw. The problems between Blacks and Whites is culture not color. Asians,Hispanics and Native Americans have mixed into the majority European population with great success. Blacks as a whole have not! The show was doomed for failure for this reason alone!

May 12 2006 at 8:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Heinrich

This is all I want to say on the subject. It is a quote from an Ice Cube rap song.
“Bust a Glock; devils get shot. . . . when God give the word me herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood; watch me blast. . . . I’m killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina, each and everyday. . . . don’t bust until you see the whites of his eyes, the whites of his skin. . . . Louis Farrakhan . . . Bloods and CRIPS, and little old me, and we all getting ready for the enemy”
“Enemy”; Ice Cube, Lethal Injection, 1993, Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.
Ice Cube like most so-called anti-racist are nothing more than anti-whites in reality. Why is Black Entertainment Television, The Black College Fund and Black History Month not only supported by our media and government but praised as holy goodness. Yet a White History Month, White Entertainment Television or a White College Fund is not only frowned upon. It is fought against with utter passion and considered an evil construction or vile white racism. The double standards are disgusting and hypocritical. It’s no wonder that white-racism in America is not only growing is actually booming! Being fueled by blaring double-standards such as this. :(

May 05 2006 at 5:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Aaron

Just an aside, but I hope everyone has heard by now that the white "family" in this show is not really a family. I have a friend who researched the family. The dad and daughter are both actors with different last names and different names than on the show. The daughter was on some disney tv show and the dad has been playing small parts on tv shows for years. They're not a real family, which leads me to believe that the entire show was a scripted scam.

April 20 2006 at 1:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
PAUL C. WALRAVEN

The show really shows just exactly what white people THINK about blacks and vice versa, for instance, in the last episode where the black man and wife were going to dress up as white people and go to a predominatly WHITE restraunt. They were treated well but when the WHITE woman at the bar went to the restroom, no one else but the BLACK guy noticed that she went to the restroom and left her purse on the bar. No one else but a theif would notice this. I ask myself, Why did he bring this to her attention? It CLEARLY showed that in a normal situation in a public place, most normal people can leave their personal belongings at the table. BUT if their is a black person around they will notice this and more often than not, RIP YOU OFF< and what is so hilarious to me is that he,(the black guy in white drag) is the one that noticed this. This, in and above all other things this show was trying to prove, should absolutely show you that if there is a chance for you to get robbed, a black man will pick up on it so quick that if he were even dressed up as a white man he STILL can,t help being a full blown NIGGER. He sees opportunities to steal where most normal people are just out to eat dinner. BUTTHIS PROVES A BLACK MAN IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO STEAL SOMETHING, EVEN IF HE WISHES HE WAS WHITE. Even if you give him achance to be white, he STILL looks for a way to take something from wherever he is because it is his RIGHT> RIGHT????? Give me a fucking break, The chinese, japanese, portuguese, spanish, germans, irish, itialians, polocks, mexicans, hell I can go on and on, they have made a rich wonderful life for themselves yet still you niggers ax, an ax, an ax (BY THE WAY THE WORD IS ASK) for more and more and more and do nothing but fuck up any and every company you work for if you do get the job. Here's how it goes. I hire you because I need a diverse workforce. You damn sure are not qualified but I take a chance because you look me in the eye and say you need this job cause you got 14 proch monkies to suppot and blah, bvlah, blah. So yougot the job. In less than 2 weeks time you call in sick, then want to know when you are going to get a raise. You have pissed off everry customer we have because they expect you to deliver what our company says we will deliver, but you have a problem with that because that requires you to do what your told to do. Then you bitch, play the ever present race card, (cause your black you should not be held to the same standards others in a 75 year old company are held to)and all of a sudden, corproate changes the overall standards for everyone. You're happy. Then, these lower standards are still to tough for you to be able to meet and get your bonus so again you bitch and play the race card, not because you are to stupid to meet the previously lowered standards, because you have again gotten too lazy to compete with those in your field that would bloww you away. So again the company lowers its expectations to avoid a lawsuite yet in less than 6 months the company that gave you a chance is now in bankruptsy from the lost business from the lower expections they ax from your unqualified, ungratefull dumbass. When are you black people ever going to get the headline of any kind of exposure that says "WE BLACKS ARE OFFERING (anything) back to society for all that this country has provided for me and my 14 kids with 12 different BABYDADDYS?" When are we going to see just one appriciative black? Just one, Just ONE, JUST ONE< ONE< ONE< ONE!!!

April 16 2006 at 12:09 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
PAUL C. WALRAVEN

The show really shows just exactly what white people THINK about blacks and vice versa, for instance, in the last episode where the black man and wife were going to dress up as white people and go to a predominatly WHITE restraunt. They were treated well but when the WHITE woman at the bar went to the restroom, no one else but the BLACK guy noticed that she went to the restroom and left her purse on the bar. No one else but a theif would notice this. I ask myself, Why did he bring this to her attention? It CLEARLY showed that in a normal situation in a public place, most normal people can leave their personal belongings at the table. BUT if their is a black person around they will notice this and more often than not, RIP YOU OFF< and what is so hilarious to me is that he,(the black guy in white drag) is the one that noticed this. This, in and above all other things this show was trying to prove, should absolutely show you that if there is a chance for you to get robbed, a black man will pick up on it so quick that if he were even dressed up as a white man he STILL can,t help being a full blown NIGGER. He sees opportunities to steal where most normal people are just out to eat dinner. BUTTHIS PROVES A BLACK MAN IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO STEAL SOMETHING, EVEN IF HE WISHES HE WAS WHITE. Even if you give him achance to be white, he STILL looks for a way to take something from wherever he is because it is his RIGHT> RIGHT????? Give me a fucking break, The chinese, japanese, portuguese, spanish, germans, irish, itialians, polocks, mexicans, hell I can go on and on, they have made a rich wonderful life for themselves yet still you niggers ax, an ax, an ax (BY THE WAY THE WORD IS ASK) for more and more and more and do nothing but fuck up any and every company you work for if you do get the job. Here's how it goes. I hire you because I need a diverse workforce. You damn sure are not qualified but I take a chance because you look me in the eye and say you need this job cause you got 14 proch monkies to suppot and blah, bvlah, blah. So yougot the job. In less than 2 weeks time you call in sick, then want to know when you are going to get a raise. You have pissed off everry customer we have because they expect you to deliver what our company says we will deliver, but you have a problem with that because that requires you to do what your told to do. Then you bitch, play the ever present race card, (cause your black you should not be held to the same standards others in a 75 year old company are held to)and all of a sudden, corproate changes the overall standards for everyone. You're happy. Then, these lower standards are still to tough for you to be able to meet and get your bonus so again you bitch and play the race card, not because you are to stupid to meet the previously lowered standards, because you have again gotten too lazy to compete with those in your field that would bloww you away. So again the company lowers its expectations to avoid a lawsuite yet in less than 6 months the company that gave you a chance is now in bankruptsy from the lost business from the lower expections they ax from your unqualified, ungratefull dumbass. When are you black people ever going to get the headline of any kind of exposure that says "WE BLACKS ARE OFFERING (anything) back to society for all that this country has provided for me and my 14 kids with 12 different BABYDADDYS?" When are we going to see just one appriciative black? Just one, Just ONE, JUST ONE< ONE< ONE< ONE!!!

April 16 2006 at 12:09 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Sena

I was reading a weekly entertainment publication a few weeks ago when I saw the families from this show. I didn't really read the article much just looked at the pictures and went on...What I saw was this.

A black family and a family with what looked like a white father and son and a mother who may have been biracial. I was totally fooled and didn't realize until the next week when I was bored and read the magazine again more thoroughly what the conception of the show was about and that the families were opposite races from what I thought.

Personally I think we all need to say screw the race thing and just realize that we all came from the same two first people (Adam and Eve) and when the earth was flooded and Noah and his family were left...there were three sons...we all descended from them. The sooner we realize that we are all brothers and sisters in this world the better it will be.

April 14 2006 at 8:52 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Liz

How in the world did they film (hidden) conversations when the black woman (in white makeup) visited the home of her newly found 'white' friend? The cameras showed both people talking and noone was supposedly in the room but them. I can't help but feel this was all staged.

April 11 2006 at 1:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kelly

I don't think that the families (black or white) in the show would be able to give real responses due to the fact that they had a video cam era following them around everywhere. I feel that many of there responses would acted out in the effort to respond in the way they think they should or in the way that they feel is most politically correct.

P.S. Can the typing tutor edit my post. Thanks

April 08 2006 at 9:18 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kelly

I don't think that the families (black or white) in the show would be able to give real responses due to the fact that they had a video cam era following them around everywhere. I feel that many of there responses would acted out in the effort to respond in the way they think they should or in the way that they feel is most politically correct.

P.S. Can the typing tutor edit my post. Thanks

April 08 2006 at 9:18 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Janice Davis

There are so many comments that I want to make. Let's see, where do I begin. First of all, I feel hopeful! Maybe, this show isn't pleasing everyone, but it certainly is pointing out some myths, stereotypes, mis-guided thinking and pure ignorance. The make-up could be better. The Black mom's make-up doesn't look believable to me. The white mom's hair should have more style, not necessarily a natural, but maybe braids or straightened. Bruno is not only ignorant, but he refuses to have an open mind to the things that are clearly thrown in his face. Thank God, the white mom appears to be learning and appreciating the "switch". The white young lady appears to be more open and have some understanding of what was going on.
I don't believe there was a conspiracy to only show what happens to Blacks on the regular. Maybe, some people are just too "sensitive" to the truth.I was interested that the Black young man depicted what alot of young men his age believe. What's the matter with saying the "N" word? It tells me that as parents, relatives, teachers, and the "village", we haven't given our children their history. And it can't just happen one month of the year.I'm very interested in seeing an interview with the participants after the project and gettng their honest reaction and whether any growth happened.I missed the interview that Oprah had with them.

April 03 2006 at 2:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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