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Short-Lived Shows: AfterMASH

by Joel Keller, posted May 30th 2006 2:50PM
AfterMASH castIn the coming years, people will probably remember Joey as one of the worst sitcoms of all time. Why? Because it took a character from a hugely successful series, Friends, and put him in a show that was about as bland as a sitcom could get.

This isn't the first time that a series that spun off main characters from a popular series has fallen on its face. In fact, aside from Frasier and maybe Archie Bunker's Place, the "falling on face" outcome seems to happen more often than not.

(UPDATE: To clarify, I'm talking about a show spun off from a hit show AFTER the hit show ends. I'm thinking of shows like The Golden Palace, Three's A Crowd, etc. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.)

Take the case of AfterMASH. After M*A*S*H ended its long run in 1983, people were still clamoring for tales of the people from the 4077th; so when plans were announced to follow three characters -- Col. Potter, Father Mulcahy, and Max Klinger -- back to life in the U.S. after the end of the Korean War, fans were overjoyed. In fact, ratings for the first half-season or so, which aired in the same Monday at 9 timeslot as M*A*S*H, were so high, the show ended the calendar year 1983 in the #1 slot.

There was a little problem, though: the show was boring as hell.

Despite the fact that AfterMASH had many of the same writers and directors as the original show, the episodes didn't crackle with the expert comic timing and back-and-forth dynamic the original had. In fact, the stories were a little depressing: Mulcahy, who went deaf in the last episode of the orginial series, developed a drinking problem over his condition, only to be saved by Potter, who had come out of retirement to adminsiter a veterans' hospital in his home state of Missouri. Klinger, who married his Korean girlfriend Sun-Lee, comes to Missouri because his relatives shun him for marrying a Korean and can't get housing because of the couple's mixed-race status.

Funny stuff, right? I mean, M*A*S*H dealt with serious issues as well, almost to a fault. But at least they could couch those issues in terms of the war that was going on around the characters. Without bombs going off and choppers with wounded coming in, the immediacy was gone, rendering AfterMASH too serious for its own good. Viewers noticed this, and as the 1983-84 season ended, the high-flying show's ratings were in a steep decline (it finished in 15th place at the end of the season).

And the casting of the supporting roles didn't work out all that well; viewers finally got to see Col Potter's wife Mildred, but she was recast between seasons one and two, as were some of the surrounding characters that were supposed to be civilian versions of Hawkeye, Frank Burns, etc. According to the show's IMDb page and Wikipedia entry, there were plans underway to bring back old M*A*S*H characters in season two (Radar already came back for a two-parter), but the show was cancelled before those episodes were written.

In all, thirty episodes were created, and all but the finale eventually aired. But for a show that started from such a high perch in September 1983, to be cancelled by December 1984 meant that CBS knew the show couldn't be salvaged. For over twenty years, it was seen as one of the most spectacular flame-outs in TV history. Now, with the failure of Joey, AfterMASH has some company in the halls of infamy.

You just wonder, though, when TV producers and network executives will start to learn from their predecessors' mistakes. If the little kid from Two and a Half Men gets his own show in five years, the answer will probably be no.

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Joel

CCK, I was referring to shows that spun off of a successful show AFTER the parent show ends. It's a very small subset of spin-offs, and none of the shows you listed of are in that category.

Of course there are many successful show spin-offs. Obviously I wasn't clear enough in my post. No reason to to throw insults, though.

May 31 2006 at 2:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CCK


I think we should list all of the successful spin-offs just to show Joel what an idiot he is. Seriously dude, know what you are talking about before you write something

I'll start:
Benson from Soap
Facts of Life from Different Strokes
The Jeffersons from All in the Family

May 31 2006 at 2:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Charles

As far as spin-offs go, AfterMASH is certianly one of the classic textbook examples of flameouts.. But as far as TV shows PERIOD, regardless of genres, Commander-in-Chief is one of the best examples of how a #1 show gets the boot really quickly.

May 30 2006 at 11:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Superstomach

I dont even remember Aftermash. The kid from 2.5 men is well on his way to becoming a fine actor.

May 30 2006 at 10:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
LC

"We're all waiting for "After Lost," when the cast of Lost manages to get home and we see their lives after life on the island."

LOL Now we are talking, though I would change the title to "FOUND".

May 30 2006 at 8:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Allen Mendelsohn

Joel you mentioned that part of the reason that AfterMASH failed was its serious topics. And is you mentioned, MASH did that almost to a fault. IMHO, MASH in fact reached that fault in its last two years - there were very few laughs in those years, it was always serious. AfterMASH just continued that.

But a bigger problem often with spinoffs ike AfterMASH is that they take what were secondary characters and make them the main characters. Hawkeye, BJ/Trapper and Margaret were the center of MASH. Supporting players rarely can support their own show unless they are absolutely incredible, deep characters (which those 3 weren't) or there is a new set of supporting characters that really round out the show (there were none on AfterMSH).

Alan - AfterLOST!!! Brilliant!! The suits are drooling.

May 30 2006 at 5:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ellie

Here you go, Joel:

AfterMASH was a terrible show for the reasons stated above, simply that MASH itself was simply about normal people being thrown together in terrible circumstances. Take away the terrible circumstances and all you have left are boring, normal people and frankly I don't need to watch those on TV.
People also forget that the dialogue and 'plots' (such as they were) in AfterMASH were downright terrible and the three main actors also happened to be the weakest actors from MASH (with the exception of Harry Morgan perhaps) and without Alan Alda, Mike Farrell et al to play off, it just came across as bland drivel.

They repeated this mistake with Joey, in my view. Matt Le Blanc is simply a terribly boring actor and the weakest of the Friends 6.

May 30 2006 at 4:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Gig

No Joel, it looks like we don't.

May 30 2006 at 4:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alan

We're all waiting for "After Lost," when the cast of Lost manages to get home and we see their lives after life on the island.

(You know, I shouldn't say these things out loud, for fear that some TV executive reads them and actually thinks it's a good idea.)

May 30 2006 at 4:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joel

Folks, this post isn't for bitching about Joey. Does anyone have anything to say about the show I actually wrote about?

And Lloyd, the spin-offs I'm talking about are the ones that happened after the long-running parent show ended, shows like "AfterMASH", "Joey", "The Golden Palace", "Three's A Crowd", etc.

May 30 2006 at 3:57 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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