I don't understand what people are getting so freaked out about. As a married person I understand that things can get pretty heated. The thing she hates most about Tommy is the same thing that turns her on. Just because it doesn't go down like that in your house, doesn't mean that it doesn't get gritty in anyone else's house. Another thing is that she can take Tommy on anytime, anywhere. She's not afraid of him and she didn't look afraid of him when it was going down.

all of you who bash the show rescue me should be tucked into bed! these types of shows are for adults! so kids, tuck yourselves in tight and leave the watchin' to grown folk!!! And im out!

Oh and it's just a show, not reality, get the fuck over it.

I love the dumbasses who are so offended. It's called rough sex and yeah, I was shocked at first, but you could tell she clearly wanted it by the time it was over. If you choose to be a baby and not watch the show anymore, you're not hurting anyone but yourself. These episodes get better and better.

I wasn't done my comment...so I will start again. My brother, my spouse and I were discussing this scene last night. My brother informed me that there was a forum whereby people were expressing their point of view on the topic...and I logged in a few moments ago.

The scene was violent in nature. Tommy shoved her...and then...the rape. She did not say "no" but she did fight him. Regardless of whether she became aroused or not...is really immaterial. Have none of you ever heard that sometimes rape victims...men and women...become aroused...because of possibly thousands of years of evolution and our second highest instinct being that of procreation?

The scene was irresponsible as hell as far as I am concerned.

A lot of people are saying "but that is the nature of their relationship" Really, rape is the nature of their relationship?

A lot of people are saying that we-who object- are somehow prudish. Right. I won't even dignify that idiotic and fallacious comment.

Below is Merriam-Websters definition of rape. Does it say anything about saying "no"?

Main Entry: 2rape
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): raped; rap·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin rapere
1 a archaic : to seize and take away by force b : DESPOIL

I am usually a much better writer than this; however word just seem to elude me right now. Not to mention that I haven't slept.

Anyway, here is the deal...y'all remember back in the late 70s when they showed that scene with Luke raping Laura on general hospital??? I was a senior in highschool...and was so messed up over that. Then...then...they make them fall in love. That was
one of the highest rated shows back then. What the hell is going on.

Then there was a movie called 40 days and 40 nights...The dude was trying to abstain from sex...and his ex girlfriend comes over...drugs him...and puts him inside of her. This was rape, too.

The World According to Garp...again...Jenny gets on top of this soldier in a vegetative state...and impregnates herself...Rape.

As for Tommy's smug look...i have a couple of opinions on that 1)he thought he got even with his brother 2) he thought he got even with his spouse or ex-whatever she currently is at this point.

Anyway, now there is a new movie out "Little Man" or something. It is a Wayan's bros. film. There is a trailer that I viewed in which little man's "mother" says "you were an animal last night". Then the little man peeps his head out...showing that it was he...and not her spouse- that she had relations with. RAPE. Not cute...not funny...RAPE.

If I were a man...I would be very offended by that depiction of another male.

Hmmmm...I just logged into this site- as my brother informed me that there was a discussion about this episode.

I was VERY bothered by it. Very very very. It was violent...and it started out with Tommy shoving Janet.

The writers say there will be a karma loop to this act, in eps. 7, 8, 9 toward the end of the season. I do not see Tommy "getting" it if the writers don't. Do they plan on having the born-again daughter raped by a date who just KNOWS she WANTS to have sex by being held down while she fights back? Like her mother fought back? And if the writers do that, the female characters just suffer the sins of the father? And that is how he will learn? No, they probably won't do that, since they have said they do not think it was rape.

I was very shocked watching this episode (rape scene). Clearly, the show is written by 2 men. This is a male fantasy acted out and had no relavance to the story line. What really turned my stomach was Tommy's lear after the act.

My take on it:

He raped her. Not particularly shocking, in my book: Tommy is an abusive, controlling S.O.B. who responds violently whenever he feels himself challenged or that he is not in control. This is consistent with his earlier portrayals.

As for his estranged wife "enjoying it," I think that once she realized that she couldn't stop him, she just went into denial. She just couldn't deal with being raped, and it was easier for her to rewrite the encounter in her mind as consensual.

What is disturbing to me is not that they depicted a rape scene, but that the creators and Dennis Leary had the audacity to defend it as possibly NOT being rape. When you force yourself on someone, THAT IS RAPE. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand??? I don't effing care if she "didn't say no." Consent is the PRESENCE OF A YES, not the absense of a no. And she was certainly kicking and fighting it enough. What is the MATTER with all of you? Being in a dysfunctional relationship now means rape is excusable?? He "snapped", as someone put it, so he's justified? WTF??