Hey, let's circumcise Mel Gibson!

i saw this funny game about mel - too bad it wasnt a circumsion game but it is a drunk driving game www.gsn.com/mel

Sorry to hear you got chopped, Bob; how did you get suckered into it? Me, like 100,000,000+ American males, I had no choice at all. FYI, I suggest you check out "The Lost List" (http://norm.org/lost.html) to see what you're now missing. It's not trivial.

And for all the women who think male circumcision is "no big thing" (as opposed to female circumcision, which is a major crime -- and I agree on the latter), take a look at "Sex as Nature Intended It" (http://sexasnatureintendedit.com) to learn what you have lost if you ever have a circumcised lover.

As for "Joy" Behar and her remarks: "ekw" covered it pretty well above. Once there were "comedians" who were actually funny. An eleven-foot pole wouldn't be long enough.

For a little sanity on this subject, see a real Jewish comedian (I've never seen him before, but he seems like he might not be half bad) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gct84oE5DEE.

He who is without sin cast the first stone.

Apparently Joy is without sin since she feels she can sit in judgement of others.

Bebop,

I would normally read the humour into such a remark, but it wasn't worded as such, and when you look at it in its context, the implication is that since Bob had it done, it must therefore be OK to do it to children. The joke (such as it was) about performing it on Gibson only works because he's caused so much pain and distress to others, so it works on the same level as a revenge-fantasy.

There is a lot more I could say about what the comment implies about the writer, but I honestly don't think it would be true, and it would be unfair to him if I were to try turning this comments section into an emotive diatribe about child abuse. I certainly wouldn't want to go over the top like the people who are equating circumcision with clitorodectomy: That doesn't help the argument at all.

What I am trying to get across is that his own experience in *choosing* circumcision (which I have no problem with) in no way justifies doing it to children who have *no choice* in the matter, and is a traumatic experience (whatever he may think) - It's like the people who say it's OK to beat (as opposed to smack) children because "it didn't to me any harm" (and again, I am not suggesting that this is what Bob thinks, it's just an example).

I just think that as a 40-year old, he should be a bit more mature and thoughtful about making comments like that, as the same philosophy could applied to many different contexts, many of which would probably horrify and disgust him.

Interesting that Joy Behar equated circumcision with punishment. Shades of John Harvey Kellog and a host of other sick and twisted quacks over the years who've promoted genital abuse of children, as punishment for masturbation or as a preventative for a whole bunch of unlikely ailments. Behar should be ashamed of herself for lowering herself to Gibson's level. For someone who bills herself as a comedian, she's not very funny, neither is Gibson.

Thanks, jDub. To all the fans of female genital mutilation - removing a clitoris would be equivalent to removing a penis completely. And because I'm such a classy person, I won't point out that any straight males with this much hatred of females and their anatomy, probably don't get to use their penises often.

When did cutting of the foreskin of a man's penis become the equivalent of cutting off a woman's clitoris? I am worried about some of you and your lack of anatomical correctness. She's a comedian, by the way. You don't have to think she's funny, but your anger should probably be examined closely. By a professional.

Kevin you can defend baby penises the world over but that does not have to mean you diss weblogs inc. for one writer's opinion slash light handed(probably joking) comment about circumcision.

anyway, circumcise Mel Gibson as a punishment? I say make him eat gefilte fish as every meal for a month

What I find extremely offensive is Bob's suggestion that you can do what you like to babies since they "won't even remember it".

It's a pity the weblogs inc. network doesn't have some kind of a twit filter to filter out the *posters*. Perhaps it's time for me to have a look at Greasemonkey...

FYI, Joy is not Jewish, she is Italian. And what seems to be lost here is that she is a comedianne.