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Deal Or No Deal is illogical

by Bob Sassone, posted Oct 20th 2006 1:02PM

Deal Or No Deal - AnyaI've already given my review of Deal Or No Deal on these pages, and Joel gave his counterpoint, so this isn't another review of the entire show, it's just an observation I have about one particular part of the show.

After a player decides to take the money, screams "Deal!" and presses the button, Howie (and viewers) want to see what WOULD have happened if the player had continued to play the game. So he'll ask "what number suitcase would you have picked?" And then the player tells him. But this is illogical. Until you're in that moment of a decision, you don't really know what you would have picked. You can think you'd pick a certain thing, but until you're faced with that decision, you don't really know, you're just guessing.

It's even worse when Howie asks the player what they would have picked after that , and then after that. You don't really know what suitcase you would have picked one, two, or three moves down the line. Makes for OK television though.

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November 01 2006 at 4:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

In the heyday of game shows, programs like "The Joker's Wild" would give contestants who decided not to risk one more spin against the devil to spin "just to see what would have happened." THIS was illogical for the reasons you gave: until you're in that situation, you wouldn't know how long you'd hold the lever or what the SUPPOSEDLY -random wheels would have landed on.

For "Deal or No Deal," at least the first "next pick" isn't illogical at all, because most of the players either have some predetermined game plan when it comes to picking suitcase numbers or they've narrowed the selection down so far that they would have at least a good idea of what their next choice would have been. The more "And which would you have picked after thats" there are, the less-certain (and more illogical) it gets.

But then again, it's just a time-burner. So it doesn't really matter how logical or illogical it is: they're just stretching so that they can drag one contestant's game play over a solid hour, which is about forty minutes too long, by my estimation.

October 22 2006 at 3:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

Too much time and too little IQ. Honestly, this is the worst thing I've ever seen written on TVSquad, and I have seen some of the Retro Squad stuff! You guys are just wannabe intellectuals with a blog about TV.

October 22 2006 at 12:35 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

Bob once again you have toooo much time on your hands.

October 21 2006 at 12:20 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

It's been said in previous comments, but as this show is really luck or no luck, the random nature of it would not change what would happen. It would only change whether or not they would continue to push there luck. There is no judgement to be made in which case, only if the deal is good enough to stop or you want to take your chance and you can figure the odds but most don't.

October 20 2006 at 6:27 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

The concept lost it's appeal for me quickly. I like 1 vs. 100 more, just because the trivia questions at least add some redeeming quality to it, whereas a monkey could play Deal or No Deal, and probably on average not do too much worse than a human. DoND is all about luck and chance, and the only real skill is realizing when you're on a sinking ship and the odds of offers increasing starts shrinking.

October 20 2006 at 5:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I think they have picked the most interesting way they can think of to show the amounts in the remaining cases. By showing the remaining amounts they demonstrate that all the amounts were indeed in play and everything is legit. It's more fun than just opening all the cases up at the end of the game.

October 20 2006 at 3:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

My wife and I gave up on this show once we started to Tivo things in full instead of just to skip commercials. I mean, really, what's the point of watching somebody pretend to labor over what is simply going to be a random number choice? If you fast forward past all of that...well, what's left to watch? To see whether she picked 11 or 19? Why not just fast forward to see how much money she won? Boring.

October 20 2006 at 1:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

That's silly. Do you really think that the number the contestant picks would vary based on whether they were still in the game? The cases are picked either a) at random or b) according to some stupid superstition harbored by the contestant. To say it's illogical to ask them which case they would have picked is a silly thing. The truth is they would probably pick the same case either way since there is absolutely no rational basis for the selection anyway.

October 20 2006 at 1:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
John Frost

"Parts of the show not affecting the outcome of the game may be scripted or edited for TV."

I suspect that's what is happening in the 'what would you have done part'. The show's producers are attempting to make, what you admit is, good tv.

October 20 2006 at 1:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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