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The Daily Show is not a news show

by Bob Sassone, posted Nov 1st 2006 12:23PM
Daily Show and Colbert ShowNeither is The Colbert Report, but that doesn't stop a lot of people from categorizing them as such. Including younger people, who always say (according to surveys anyway) that they get their main news from the Comedy Central shows.

But is this true? I mean, don't you already have to know about the people being poked at, the politicians being skewed, the news stories of the day being dumped on, in order to get the jokes? It's not like the two shows explain the stories. They're just humor shows, and you have to watch the regular news so you can get the jokes.

That's not to say that they're only humor shows. They're satirizing current events, politics, and pop culture, so of course a little actual news is going to get in there too, especially when they seem to be doing the work of the major news organizations. Really, can you imagine what would happen if any of the major news stations would do something like showing old clips where a politician did something he said he didn't do? This is where The Daily Show (and Countdown with Keith Olbermann) actually are doing news, if in a lighter way. They actually cover stories that the nets don't, and in a way the nets don't.

This long babble is just a long introduction to this story in the Philadelphia Inquirer, where NBC's Brian Williams says that viewers shouldn't get their election night news from Stewart and Colbert.

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natalie

listen, people, most kids/teenagers in this country dont watch news, and thats bad, but lets face it, at least thier getting something. stephen on john have real news on this show, but unlike other news sources, people actually ENJOY watching it, so you can watch the boring ass news shows, just be happy people out there are watching the news, funny or not.

November 03 2006 at 10:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dan

What makes The Daily Show and The Colbert Report SUPERIOR to the "real" news is that Stewart and Colbert assume that the powers that be are trying to manipulate us. The "news" on the other hand is often a collaborator in that manipulation-- White House correspondents in effect act as spokesmen for the White House. Fox is the epitome of that collaboration. It is run by Roger Ailes, who previously was in charge of Republican campaigns.

November 02 2006 at 8:50 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
christine dix

I get about 75% of my news from these two fine gentlemen, and get the rest off the internet. I do not watch network news, and I buy a Sunday paper mostly out of habit. The only things that I think I'm missing is idiotic comments from reporters, and that annoying thread along the bottom that has no relevance to what is being said at the newsdesk. The Daily Show and Colbert Report is informing me of events that I was previously unaware of; therefore they are providing news to me.

November 02 2006 at 5:08 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Vito

malren:
Satire is inherently biased. You can't do satire if you don't take a particular position on the subject.

And if The Daily Show seems as much like news as actual news shows, that just underscores the serious flaws in news programs these days. No comedy show should be the only voice on the air pointing out the hypocrisy, thoughtlessness and outright lying that comprise so much of what passes for news shows these days.

November 01 2006 at 6:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Derek

I agree with Brian Wiliams that people shouldn't get their election night news from Colbert or Stewart.
I also don't think that anyone should get their news coverage from any of the cable news networks either where supposed fiar journalism means you get a democrat a republican on your show and let them spout talking points that 9 times out of 10 contain falsehoods and mischaracterizations of the truth.

November 01 2006 at 5:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
malren

It's kind of telling that in a short piece which purports to say that TDS is not news, Bob Sassone made the exact same mistake he's pointing out:

"...especially when they seem to be doing the work of the major news organizations."

"They actually cover stories that the nets don't, and in a way the nets don't."

And this is why so many young people say they get their news from these shows. Bob clearly meant this piece to say "These shows are entertainment" but even while trying to say it, he can't help but to legitimize the news aspect.

This is all part of why I believe that Stewart should be held to a higher standard than "Oops, it's just jokes, sorry." Colbert is clearly satire through and through. No confusing the boundaries there.

Jon is representing both his own political point of view and that of the staff (especially during interview segments), and a large part the show is *not* jokes. The old "It's just comedy" defense is wearing thinner and thinner every time he or anyone else tries to use it.

Own up to it. Admit you're doing biased news with a satirical spin, Jon. Of course when you finally admit it, you're going to lose half your material. Can't really make fun of Fox for their obvious biases if you're admitting to your own, eh?

November 01 2006 at 4:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Baslow

Forget about the news! What other popular entertainment shows feature so many serious books about politics and culture every week? The young people who are claiming to get their news from the Daily Show and Colbert Report seem to me to be unlikely to be learning about these books anywhere else. In between the laughs both Stewart and Colbert seem careful to let the authors state their basic theses, at least. If only five percent of their audience reads one or two of those books which they otherwise would not then The Daily Show and The Colbert Report are performint a service to our society beyond just comedy.

November 01 2006 at 3:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Vito

Also, deanj, if you want to see the breakdown (for 2004, anyway), look here:
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=200

Doesn't have Daily Show partisan viewers, but I'm sure they're mostly Democrats. Though I know Republicans who enjoy it as well.

November 01 2006 at 3:16 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Vito

I wonder if many times, they aren't just asking about news programs and people SAY Daily Show, because they don't watch any other news program on a daily basis. Personally, I get all my news from the Internet, where I don't have to worry about partisan voices or only hearing one side, because I can easily see a thorough examination of ALL sides in about 5 minutes. Some news programs are good, but the majority of them are awful. So while I don't consider the Daily Show to be actual news (it's newsiness), it's definitely the only "news" program I watch on a regular basis.

November 01 2006 at 3:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
deanj

Frankly, I'd be pretty interested in seeing the breakdown of the political bend of people that get their "news" this way, via other sources. It certainly would explain a lot.

November 01 2006 at 2:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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