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Cosby takes on black parents... again

by Julia Ward, posted Nov 3rd 2006 10:52AM
Bill CosbyBill Cosby's overly-earnest public speaking career has him aiming for a South Park send-up. His latest potentially controversial outing came Saturday at Los Angeles' Maranatha Community Church.

Cosby's address at a forum entitled "Education is a Civil Right" took on black parents and educators for not setting goals for children or being able to answer their questions about why education is important. Saturday's speech offered none of Cosby's past, more inflammatory criticisms of young African-Americans for squandering the progress made by the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.

Has television's ideal dad aged into an unfunny curmudgeon, a much-needed public intellectual or just another self-important celebrity?

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PhantomProphet

Two things.
First, Cosby is saying things that need to be said. Nobody else addresses Black issues without the pretense of "us" verses "them" a.k.a. black vs. white when that is not the case.
There seems to be a trend in black culture to blame white culture for all it's ills. I'm in no way saying that there is no racisim, there will always be (or at least there will be for a VERY long time) but we all have to rise above it. Black, White, Yellow, Purple, we all have to live with one another on this planet so we (and this is aimed at people of all colors) need to learn to stop pointing the finger at other races or groups and saying "it's their fault".
Instead we need to be taking responsibility for our own situations and taking action ourselves to improve our own place in this world.
Cosby is doing that for his group, which in this case is Black America. I see nothing wrong with that in the least.
Now if only they would listen.

And second, to "Mike"

"3. is this TV news? Sounds like it belongs on PoliticsSquad which this site is slowly starting to become."

Posted at 11:27AM on Nov 3rd 2006 by mike 0 stars

Hey Mike. Shutup.

November 08 2006 at 3:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Marsha

I attended the meeting at Maranatha church and Cosby's comments were helpful and honest. Dr. Cosby is trying to help educators, like myself, reach the new generation, to tranlate knowledge in an authenic effective way. Many of us are not able to reach them or make our subject matter relevant to our students so there is a disconnect and we actually lose the students. I enjoyed his rant and will take some of his suggestions back to my classroom, I believe his advise will work.
Marsha

November 06 2006 at 4:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ManekiNeko

Corn-on-the-Cosby hasn't been funny for ten years. Remember The Cosby Mysteries? Or the second Cosby show? Or L'il Bill? Or the horrendous Fat Albert movie?

Oh, how I'd like to forget.

JR

November 04 2006 at 9:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
erroneous_nick

Hey Jim! Here's a high-five and a hearty "amen" for everything you said.

Abso-freakin'-lutely spot-on, man.

November 04 2006 at 1:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ron Savage

I'm actually going to answer the question posed at the end: "unfunny curmudgeon."

That's what Cosby has become. And it isn't because I don't agree with him, because I do agree with him. But it's funny how America's most funniest dad has become America's most grumpiest grandpa.

Everytime I read something about Cosby these days, he's whining and crying about something. It's one-note.

He may have a point, but he's forgotten how he used to get his points across before: with humor. He was able to redefine the black American family to a whole generation of people who had only seen jive-talkers and hoes. And he did it with laughter.

Now all I ever see is Cosby jibba-jabbin' with a scowl across his face. And it defeats the purpose. Because the only ones listening are the ones who agree with him, or the ones who agree with him but find his rants approaching repetitious boredom.

And the people he's really trying to reach definitely haven't heard one word. So, what's the point? Why keep talking to the converted?

November 03 2006 at 5:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jean

Being a TV Dad, does not give Bill Cosby the Right to speak out against anything. One reason that I have a problem with his opinions. I just don't like his Track record. He is not a good role model for our kids.His lifestyle just Don't line up either.Being Faithful to your wife should have been his goal, years ago. As we see it," he should pratice, what he preaches".

November 03 2006 at 4:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Cindy

Way to go Mr. Cosby - we need many more people to speak out to ALL people, of all races,regarding this harsh world and taking responsibility for our own individual actions and not blaming someone else!

So many young people entering the workforce now
have no idea that starting at the bottom, not the top, is OK and teaches you life lessons along the way.

November 03 2006 at 12:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
marty45

What better person to help the african american community then Cosby. He is in the spotlight and only attempting to unite balck famiies to take responsiblity and to help their children succeed in a harsh world where racism still exists but where usually hard work, education and motivation equals independence...and less reliance on gov. hand-outs

November 03 2006 at 12:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jim

Cosby hasn't "aged into" anything. He's been a consistent advocate for education and family accountability his whole life. The man has a Ph.D. in education.

What has happened is that those standards have eroded around him and us -- and, as a previous poster noted, not in any single community.

And what makes him stand out today is that he isn't copping out, going with the flow and spouting a lot of permissive mumbo-jumbo. He's standing up like a grown-up and suggesting that kids and their parents have to work hard, take education seriously, and tie their expectations of what life will give them to their willingness to put something in first. What a radical.

He's addressing his own community, African-Americans, because he has the stature to do so.

The other blog you linked to lays bare its wrong thinking with this attempt at analysis: "Can you blame the parents when the politicians don't care either?"

Excuse me? The chain of responsibility for a kid starts in Washington, and eventually makes its way down to the kid's own parents? What a load of nonsense. We need 100 more Cosbys out there.

If Julia thinks Parker and Stone are going to skewer Cosby over this on South Park, then she doesn't have a good grasp on the South Park sensibility. If they featured him at all, it would be as the voice of reason.

I agree this is semi-OT for a blog about TV, but I didn't put the original post there.

November 03 2006 at 12:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mintyfunk

It doesn't hurt that he is an insider in the community. Criticism of this nature from an outsider would be too easy to discard, but from someone inside the community is becomes more palatable.

November 03 2006 at 11:58 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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