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Watch the 48 Hours Scientology episode

by Adam Finley, posted Nov 10th 2006 7:02PM

jeremy perkinsScientology fascinates me, and not because I have any desire to be a part of whatever the hell it is. I'm just inexplicably drawn to beliefs and practices I would never personally adhere to because I'm interested in what drives other people, especially if aliens might be involved. The "religion" claims to have ten million followers, and there's obviously something about it that attracts celebrities. Do those Hollywood peeps know something about it we don't, or is it just another trivial and meaningless fad like Kabbalah?

48 Hours recently did a show on Scientology, specifically Jeremy Perkins, a paranoid schizophrenic who stabbed his mother to death. Perkins parents were Scientologists (his mother was a senior auditor at the Church of Scientology in Buffalo, NY) and did not believe in psychiatric treatment. You can watch the episode here. I have not watched it yet myself, but feel free to take a look and share your reflections in the comments.

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Dermot Ryan

Dear Fred,

The Lisa McPherson case was tragic. However I take a LOT of offence to the usurping of it by the anti-Scientology movement. There were mistakes made...mistakes mind you. The way this was treated was MURDER>>>DEATH>>>MAYHEM>.

I'm glad you recognised Hubbard as a Science Fiction writer. "Among the top 3 most important Science Fiction writers of his age" according to John Campbell editor of Astounding Science Fiction.

The alleged Alien stuff you mention is a popular canard used by the anti-Scientology movement to smear the works of Hubbard and the Religion of Scientology. In fact, it was pure research STOLEN by criminals. These criminals have served sentences for this. But before they did, they passed on stolen materials. The fences they passed them onto then passed them around. So people who received this are in possession of stolen material. In other words A CRIME. But the anti-Scientology movement has this criminal activity all justified. I see no reason to believe that we are alone in this universe. Thats arrogant!!! But again its just a belief. Nothing stranger than "a virgin birth" or a man walking on water.

As for scam, may I point it out to you that the Church of Scientology was scrutinized by the American government, IRS,FBI and CIA for 40 years. It was the biggest single investigation of any single group in US history and they found all our corporate, legal and tax totally in order. They further stated that Hubbard, the leaders of the church do not personally benefit from the church activities and that the church benefits mankind. Further this "reflects the position of the US government".

Psychiatry is a scam science. There is NO evidence of mental illness clinically or scientifically. Ask ANY psychaitrist. They will tell you the same. Further in asking them they will also tell you that they do not know the cause of mental illness. Yet they are appropriated billions each year for prescribing incredibly powerful drugs without ANY evidence medically.

Thats the real scam muppet.

Dermot Ryan

November 16 2006 at 4:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dermot Ryan

Dear Fred,

You are correct. She should have been left in hospital.

The rest of your "comment" is just plain old religious bigotry and hatred. Its also a canard!!

Its guys like you that give the KKK such a good reputation.

Cheers,

Dermot

November 16 2006 at 4:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Fred Durks

Dermot - A few questions for you:

If Lisa Mcpherson was in such bad shape, why did Scientologists take her (against the doctors orders) out of the hospital?

Why did Scientologists leave her in a locked room for weeks to rot until she died? Have you even seen the autopsy photographs of her? Nice "church" you belong to.
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisapics.htm

Also, I have another question for you. How can you continue to promote this science fiction novel once you learn about Xenu and the alien coodies inside of all of us. All of which is learned in OT3 The WALL OF FIRE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

In Scientology OT3, Xenu is an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of aliens to Earth in DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to wreak chaos and havoc today.

The reason L. Ron Hubbard (50's hack science fiction writer who created Scientology) made up this story is he needs a story behind the scam he dreamed up. Charge people lots of money for auditing. Auditing will get rid of all these space coodies.

Also, why does L. Ron Hubbard not like psychiatry? Actually, I can answer that one for you, it's because it takes away money from auditing. Who cares if it works or not. Scientologists also front groups such as Narcon. In Narconon people are fed deadly amounts of Niacin and then thrown in hot saunas.

I doubt I'll get a response.

November 14 2006 at 12:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dermot Ryan

Dear Adam,

In reference to the tragic case of Lisa McPherson. She died from a blood clot after a car accident. This was the extent of this "story". Unfortunately, the anti-Scientology lobby got wind of it and twisted the whole thing around to make it look like something sinister had occurred.
The result was a criminal and civil case all which collapsed and are gone.
Your comment is typical of the anti-Scientology rhetoric which has been long unrebutted. However there are some people out there who will challenge this including myself. Your comments are patently designed to malign Scientology and set it up for scorn. It is a classic example of religious bigotry.

Finally, it is very interesting that the Pro-Scientology comments get no stars yet the bigotted anti-SCientology comments get rated. It shows the direction this comment line has taken. And it is rotten to the core.

Dermot Ryan

November 14 2006 at 5:00 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Adam Rakunas

...aaaaand here come the Scientology astroturfers.

What happened to Lisa McPherson, Peter?

November 11 2006 at 9:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Peter Finnegan

Dear Seth Brundle,

This is what draws them to it.

The word Scientology literally means "the study of truth." It comes from the Latin word "scio" meaning "knowing in the fullest sense of the word" and the Greek word "logos" meaning "study of."

Scientology is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, others and all of life. The religion comprises a body of knowledge extending from certain fundamental truths. Prime among these:

Man is an immortal, spiritual being. His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime. His capabilities are unlimited, even if not presently realized - and those capabilities can be realized. He is able to not only solve his own problems, accomplish his goals and gain lasting happiness, but also achieve new, higher states of awareness and ability.

In Scientology no one is asked to accept anything as belief or on faith. That which is true for you is what you have observed to be true. An individual discovers for himself that Scientology works by personally applying its principles and observing or experiencing results.

Through Scientology, people all over the world are achieving the long-sought goal of true spiritual release and freedom.

November 11 2006 at 6:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Peter Finnegan

To SJ,

If you walked down the street and someone was wearing a T-Shirt that said 'SJ is a faggot!' Would you get a bit 'upset' about it?

PF

November 11 2006 at 6:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Seth

What draws people to it?
Power, networking, money, and tax evasion.

November 10 2006 at 8:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Borat

Here is a story about Jenna Elfman (from Dharma and Greg) freakin out:

http://www.scientomogy.com/dharma.php

It really does sound like a dangerous cult. I guess celebrities are attracted to it because they can achieve a higher thetan level or whatever by spending more money.

November 10 2006 at 8:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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