The Shield: On The Jones (season premiere)

I think to myself that Vic Mackey is the great tough cop
there is. That's why he believes in what he does for a
living as a dective and takes on crimals and runs them in
until proving guilty that's what I like about him.

When I watched this episode last night when Vic learns the truth about Shane Vendrell for murdering his own best friend Lem. For the fact that
was he going to be killed by
Shane personally beccause he had said to him that Kavanaugh was going to take him off that investtion and for what because of turning his back on him and for Shane to say that Vic and Ronnie don't what him to come back at all this not the kind of person Shane has to be.

I missed the first two episodes of season six, anywhere to catch up? besides reading.... thanks

well this is a sick as show , to bad lem had to die , but it had to happen ,it was part of the script.now what will happen with the strike team now that julian is becoming part of it with alex and vick ,eventhough vic will not be the leader anymore . but we wil see. someone dies at the end and someone ends up in jail .just wait to see it.

p.s. believe it or not, but on the set of the show, the actresses/actors, writers/producers, even the PA's - EVERYONE thinks of chiklis' character as the bad guy. i was a camera person for NBC about a year ago and i knew people who literally worked on the set (of the shield)...and they were suprised how all the show's fans acted like vic was some kind of hero! they actually didn't anticipate that when they first started writing it.

google/youtube the original michael chiklis interviews before season one when he was first asked to play vic mackey. even back then he thought of vic as a scumbag. i don't get why people try to make him into a hero when even the person who plays him thinks he's a bad guy!

i think you guys have things twisted here. vic is a bad cop, hands down. the guy's dirty as shit. whether it's KILLING his own fellow cops...or stealing from the mob - he's a dirtbag. even michael chiklis - the guy who plays him has actually said THOSE EXACT WORDS in an interview - that vic is a dirtbag...and he is.
what makes this show interesting is that he's a 3 dimensional character as well. he's good in some ways. like he has a soft spot for children. or he takes care of his family & really loves his friends. and he doesn't seem to be a racist (although obviously sean's a racist). so while he's a bad cop, he does good things.

Kavanhaugh on the other hand is fundamentally a good cop...who ends up doing bad things. read interviews from the shows writers/producers/directors - Kavanhaugh & vic are ying and yang. they're opposites with a little bit of one another in each.

it's like how hitler was a really good husband, or how ghandi was cruel to his wife. the writers are saying that good people can do bad things(Kavanhaugh), and that bad people can occasionally do good things(vic). that's been a central theme in the show ALL ALONG. so don't get your lines crossed on Kavanhaugh, he's a good cop who did a bad thing. VIC is the bad cop, who occasionally does right. that's all they were trying to say.

i know all y'all love vic, and i'm not trying to hate on him :) he's a facinating character - and he made the show so great. but Kavanhaugh's the good guy, and always has been...however, being good doesn't mean you're perfect or that you can't make mistakes.

i think you guys have things mixed up here. vic is a bad cop, hands down. the guys dirty as shit. whether it's KILLING his own fellow cops...or stealing from the mob - he's a dirtbag. even michael chiklis - the guy who plays him - has actually said THOSE EXACT WORDS in an interview - that vic is a dirtbag...and he is.
what makes this show interesting is that he's a 3 dimensional character as well - like he has a soft spot for children. or he takes care of his family & really loves his friends. so while he's a bad cop, he does good things.

Kavanhaugh on the other hand is fundamentally a good cop...who ends up doing bad things. he's vics opposite. read interviews from the shows writers/producers/directors - Kavanhaugh & vic are ying and yang. they're opposites with a little bit of one another in each.

it's like how hitler was a really good husband, & how ghandi was cruel to his wife. the writers are saying that good people can do bad things(Kavanhaugh), and that bad people can occasionally do good things(vic). that's been a central theme in the show ALL ALONG.
so don't get your lines crossed on Kavanhaugh, he's a good cop who did a bad thing. VIC is the bad cop, who occasionally does right. that's all they were trying to say.

i know all y'all love vic, and i'm not trying to hate on him :) he's a facinating character - and he made the show so great. but Kavanhaugh's the good guy, and always has been...however - being good doesn't mean you're perfect and that you can't make mistakes.

i think you guys have things twisted here. vic is a bad cop, hands down. the guys dirty as shit. whether it's KILLING his own fellow cops...or stealing from the mob - he's a dirtbag. don't get mad at me, the guy (michael chiklis) who plays him has actually said THOSE EXACT WORDS in an interview - that vic is a dirtbag...and he is.
what makes this show interesting is that he's a 3 dimensional character as well - like he has a soft spot for children. or he takes care of his family & really loves his friends. so while he's a bad cop, he does good things.

Kavanhaugh on the other hand is fundamentally a good cop...who ends up doing bad things. he's vics opposite - don't you folks get that? read interviews from the shows writers/producers/directors - Kavanhaugh & vic are ying and yang. they're opposites with a little bit of one another in each.

it's like how hitler was a really good husband, or how ghandi was cruel to his wife. the writers are emphasising how good people can do bad things(Kavanhaugh), and how bad people can occasionally do good things(vic). that's been a central theme in the show ALL ALONG.
so don't get your lines crossed on Kavanhaugh, he's a good cop who did a bad thing. VIC is the bad cop, who occasionally does right. that's all they were trying to say.

i know all y'all love vic, and i'm not trying to hate on him :) he's a facinating character. but Kavanhaugh's the good guy, and always has been...but being good doesn't mean you're perfect.

I don't actually think that Kavanaugh has transformed so much as he has released what was in him all along. My impression from last season is that he has had some really dark stuff inside and it's that darkness that pushed his extreme obsession with doing everything by the rules. He fears the darkness and pushes it down--if he only follows the rules, then he'll be alright, but if he lets himself slip, then he'll be overwhelmed by the darkness. He can't find a balance. The rules become his own personal shield, but all he's doing is keeping a lid on the growing pressure inside himself.

In several episodes last year, when he was all alone, he blew up and lost control. Every time that he has lost it and then tried to regain control, he's fallen a little shorter of where he started. Now, he's lost it all. He followed the rules, and he got someone killed. He followed the rules and saw his wife have sex with someone he hates. The rules no longer have the same power to hold back that side of himself and it's now coming to the front.

Scary and intense stuff and I can't wait to see more of these two incredible actors/characters going head to head. I feel like I'm watching a Shakesperian play that is only now seeing the light of day.

This was a really good episode. It felt a little rushed to me but overall I enjoyed every second of it. Im just so glad that its back. Plus I swear when I read that headline "Murdered cop was dirty," my heart almost broke in half. Lem did not deserve that.