Damages: There's No "We" Anymore

Patty's sister killed in the Frobisher crash... ? When Frobisher found out that Patty was going to use the crash in the case, he held a news conference with the family of the dead woman. They were all kindness and light -- and rich thanks to Frobisher's hush money. No family ties were mentioned...

I agree, however, that Patty seems to have some connection with Fro from back in the day. I'm leaning toward whatever happened to her father as the source of that connection.

'Can't wait for answers in the finale, and if there's going to be a season two, I hope there are no cliffhangers!

My theory:

Why two crime scenes with no CSI tape, markings, or any indication that significant evidence was collected, like, e.g., the bloody Statue of Liberty paperweight (which I think is the secret hiding place, btw)??!! I don't think this was a slip; those Damages writers are too savvy. If they made an error this obvious, it would taint the whole 'Damages' experience and demote it to an ambitious, but fatally flawed TV movie -- for me, anyway. No, I think, like everything else in this enigma, it's a clue: big money paid off the precinct to keep 'hands off' until Ellen was out and got 'her' hands on the tape.

Questions:

Somehow Nye knew Ellen's bail was posted in order to be there waiting to pick her up and take her to her apartment -- and when Patty came back to town, she knew to go straight there to talk to Ellen. Are Patty and Nye in cahoots?

The thugs who were following Katie: what did they do with her after she left David?

Anyone remember Lila conspiring about David w/someone on the phone when she was first introduced in the story? (There was no real grandfather, right?)

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Well, I guess I'll complete my Damages body-snatching takeover now and go jump in today's all-day marathon…!

I think that Patty was visiting her sister at the graveyard. I think that Patty's sister was killed by Frobisher 20 years ago in that car accident. That's why Patty wants to get Frobisher.

Ellen actually does have a strong case. Frobisher's guys tore up the apartment looking for the tape. David left voicemail messages for Ellen where he apologized for the fight and told her about the tape. Katie can tell the cops that right before her brother was killed she gave him a tape from someone else who was murdered because he knew too much. There was some blood in Patty's apartment from the guy Ellen killed. And the fact that her apartment wasn't locked up and covered in police tape irked me too...

Lila probably wasn't working for Frobisher. She could have just given him a copy of the key to their apartment- she didn't need to sneak into their apartment or tell Ellen that she was having an affair with David.

Nye is suspicious just because Ellen seems to trust him, in spite of her, "Trust no one" stance. I hope that Patty's son is somehow involved in this too, as a witness or something. He's had some of the funniest lines in the whole show.

You can't be certain if the apartment was bugged, or who bugged it. I think that it was, but once they knew that Katie had the tape it would have been safe for the goons to assume that she gave it to Ellen or David when she visited their apartment.

But I always thought that it was Patty who bugged their apartment because she never TRUSTED Ellen completely. She may have been worried Ellen would share secrets with David or Katie but not with her.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Fiske taped his conversation with Patty, dropped it in the outgoing mail, and then went back in and killed himself.

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Ellen regrets blackmailing Fiske, leading to his suicide.

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It's safe to assume that Katie had already watched the videotape. She said she didn't want to hang around because she didn't want to be their when Ellen came back. David watched the tape alone out of curiosity.

I kind of suspected that Lila was a red herring all along. Although she had a purpose other than throwing us off - she essentially, unwittingly, let in the killers. I'm sure they would have found a way in anyway. Actually, if it hadn't happened that way - David may have ended up letting them in himself. Even though David was obviously sensing something seriously dangerous was going on, he still never once looked through the peep hole before answering the door. Art's goons would have easily have strong armed themselves in past David.

Don't you all think that the gopher guy (Uncle Pete, is that his name?) is somehow involved? Remember how Tom found him sitting at Patty's desk? Yet why didn't Tom ask him what he was up to? Tom obviously suspected something. Come on, a partner walks in on a gopher sitting at the senior partner's desk and doesn't ask what he's doing??

The huge hole in the plot about the crime scene not being blocked off irks me, and almost completely ruins it for me. That's just bad writing.

I never suspected Hollis Nye until this past episode. He is somehow involved.

I do think that the apartment is bugged - but by Patty's team, not Frobisher's. (The real estate dude obviously doing it - that was the whole reason why Patty gave Ellen the apartment - so that it could be bugged. Why else would she be so generous?) David may have suspected that the apartment was bugged - this might be why he spoke in code - telling Ellen he was leaving it in "our hiding place." Art's goons didn't know for sure that Ellen had the tape - but they knew the tape existed b/c of the letter from Gregory that Frobisher read in Fiske's office that expressly stated that he made a tape. Frobisher's goons knew that Katie had just visited David - and that Gregory had been with Katie just before he died. They didn't "know" anything for sure - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together in that one.

Okay, now my big question is: Whose grave was Patty visiting? I have always felt that Patty has some secret underlying driving reason to go after Frobisher. The Enron-ish case is just her ruse to go after him legally and destroy him. Remember a few episodes ago when they uncovered the story of Frobisher's own personal "Chappaquiddick" - for a while I wondered if maybe the girl who died was Patty's sister and this is why she's after Frobisher. But then I rememberd that the girl's parents had a press conference about the whole incident in Frobisher's defense - so I figured, well that can't be it, b/c the parents would be Patty's parents. Although who knows, there could still be something there. Or - nothing has ever come up about Michael's real father. Is he dead? Is that the grave who Patty visited? Or is - maybe this is way off base - Michael seems kind of evil and unscrupulous - is it possible that - Frobisher is Michael's father? We've always assumed that Patty and Frobisher didn't know each other years before the case - but that's never actually been said.

Okay, someone posted about being surprised about the twist of Patty's son and husband being involved - did I miss something? I didn't catch anything other than Michael coming home and asking Ellen to not mention he was there - but he's a sneaky bratty spoiled kid up to no good. But did I miss something about the husband's involvement?

I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait for the last episode, yet I dread it. Wonderful characters, wonderful actors, wonderful writing. It's been a long time since something has held me so spellbound.

Just for fun, I watched all three of the Sarah series on Hallmark recently: Sarah, Plain and Tall, Skylark and Winter's End. It was so amazing to compare her performances to Damages, definitely the mark of an astounding actor.

the place has to be bugged (not videotaped). why did those other guys come in that one time then? and why didnt the fiance tell katie? that was really weird..i'm pretty sure if someone came to my place that my wife knew, i would tell her
i didnt get why the fiance watched the video at all without katie, seemed out of place
i assumed lila was in on it and that she let the guys in the apt, she didnt seem to care when the fiance kicked her out, like she accomplished what she needed to, by allowing them in..

I've been pretty suspicious that Hollis Nye is evil for a while now. He's appeared too interested in Ellen from the very begining. I must admit, Patty's husband and son's involvement threw me for a loop! I didn't see that twist coming. FX MUST RENEW! Renew FX! Renew!

I think this show is pretty damn awesome -- it's just too bad it's only 13 episodes. Would love to see what they can do with another season, although people are saying FX might not renew.

If you like it, e-mail the head of FX (John Landgraf) and tell him you want the show back. jlandgraf@fxnetworks.com

I'm pretty sure Gregory mentioned the tape to Ray in the letter he left him, and that Ray then left for Art. I agree the house isn't bugged.