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Obama Defeats Clinton!

by Bob Sassone, posted Jan 9th 2008 12:41PM

NBC screencapFirst off, I'd just like to point out that Chris Matthews is the most annoying political analyst on television.

Now that that's out of the way, did anyone watch the New Hampshire primary coverage on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News? If Chandler Bing was covering the primary, he'd say "could the networks be more wrong?" (If Chandler Bing really existed and commented on political coverage).

If was actually quite laughable. They didn't get anything right. Ever since Iowa they were declaring that Obama had the momentum and Clinton might as well pack her bags, and when the 8pm closing of the polls showed a very tight race between Obama and Clinton (and Clinton actually ahead), they seemed a little irritated and confused. Cocky "expertise" turned into "we have fascinating development here folks!" and "The polls were wrong!" This can't be right! We have pundits and exit polls and shiny buttons! This doesn't compute!

You'd like to think that after this, the networks would slap themselves on the forehead and not do the same thing next time. But they probably will. They have too much time to fill! That's the real problem here, they have to fill up the non-stop coverage with overanalysis and predictions and charts. They have to have some reason to justify all of the giant NASA-like screens. It was quite fun to see them have to change their wording and change their analysis late last night when the results were made final.

At least Tom Brokaw was on the right track when he said that maybe the network should let the voters decide the election and then report on that.

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Preston

This happened back in 2004 with the presidential election. They predict or project the winner WHEN THE VOTES IN THAT RESPECTIVE STATE HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET! And only 50 to 80 percent of that state's voted have been counted. They get too overzealous and overexcited when they have boring stretches of time on their marathon show.
I go--How do these anchormen go through this pattern day after day in those network TV studios reporting the news live just as the cameras roll? It's like a nonstop round the clock pattern when most of us take a more slower pace.
Chris Matthews is a good host, but he can get a little too hyper. Sounds like he drinks 7 or 8 cups of coffee or Red Bull energy drink before Hardball goes on the air on MSNBC.

February 06 2008 at 1:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
PORSCHE

I don't think the media knows yet who they want to win between Obama or Clinton...just push Edwards out...and of course they loove the liberal McCain....push ush push there.

January 10 2008 at 1:13 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
foxy

Sassone, please stick to TV shows.
If i need any political analysis, it's not going to be from you.

January 09 2008 at 7:54 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jake

While Bob was trying to evoke Dewey defeats Truman in his headline, he is in fact off the mark about their similarities. It was the polling that had been reliable up until New Hampshire that let all the analysts down. Matthews was more than willing to say he was wrong, and today he followed up his show in analyzing why the polls were wrong.

I'd also like to point out that Bob Sassone is the most annoying blogger on this blog.

January 09 2008 at 7:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joey Geraci

Clinton is not evil. She is a moderate Democrat, less liberal on some issues than Obama and Edwards. She has a lot of experience in Washington and in politics in general, which is both a good thing and a bad thing.

The crying was not fake. At the absolute worst, I will believe that she has had advisors telling her, rightfully, for days now that she needed to show a softer, more feminine, more heartfelt side, but it would take the most cynical mind to believe that the tears welling up in her eyes and the words coming out of her mouth at that moment were not 100% genuine. The main reason people don't like Clinton is that she has a tendency to try to fake warmth and friendliness; what makes people think that her acting skills suddenly quadrupled in a matter of a week?! It was genuine.

January 09 2008 at 5:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joel Keller

For those who are confused about the post's title... Bob is riffing off the famous "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline that the Chicago Tribune printed after the paper mistakenly projected Dewey's victory in the 1948 presidential election. As we all (?) know, Truman came from behind and won.

Your fellow commenter Ry got the reference, as he/she sent a link to the famous pic of Truman happily showing his supporters the mistaken headline:
http://rosenblumtv.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/dewey_defeats_truman.jpg

January 09 2008 at 3:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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david

no, i am well aware of the truman/dewey headline and am still very confused on why these two situations would be viewed so similarly. As i said above, to the best of my knoweldge the "worst" anyone did was predict that obama was going to win.

Am i the only one who views predicting a winner and projecting/announcing a winner as two completely seperate different animals (and i mean we are talking house cat vs pink martian elephant here).

Now if you want to write an article about how the media tried to skew viewers into thinking obama was a sure shot at winning (when he wasnt) than write that article. Show me what they reported, why it was incorrect, and what the real facts are. Dont just make a headline, that while cute and clever, distracts and confuses the average (or in my case the slightly below avergage when it comes to politics) reader.

January 09 2008 at 4:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rob

Ok,.. well that's fair. Now that you point it out, it makes sense.

It's such a straightforward title though, it's hard to take it as anything other than fact. Maybe the Dewey reference would have helped in the first couple lines of the text - you know,.. for us feeble minded.

January 09 2008 at 5:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
david

i dont understand what the big deal is here. Help me understand here.... Did any news agency ever really project Obama as the winner and/or announce he had "officially" won. As far as i can tell the worst they did was PREDICT he was going to be the winner.

Does this mean i should be all up in arms the on sunday if a room full of ESPN analysts predict the New England Patriots are going to win, only to be upset by the San Diego Chargers.

* sorry for the repost wanted to make it its own post so others could reply

January 09 2008 at 3:41 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Eugene

Come on, if the networks didn't learn their lesson after the 2000 presidential elections, what made anyone think they would learn now?

January 09 2008 at 3:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Scott

As far as MSNBC's coverage goes, I broke down and made a news crawl cover out of cardboard to preserve my sanity. I hate those things and can't watch more than 5 minutes with them. Matthews was all right. Olbermann was a total professional, earning more points as a serious anchorman (that seriousness and lack of bias is not always evident on his own show, which I like for what it is). I found all the trips to Williams, Russert, and Brokaw kind of useless. Williams & Brokaw really didn't have much meaningful to add, and Russert didn't get an opportunity to do what he does best, get all geeky with the numbers.

January 09 2008 at 2:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Edward

Wouldn't it be better if Brokaw, Olbermann and Williams led the broadcast?

January 09 2008 at 3:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
david

so am i the only one who was confused by this headline/article??

I saw the headline obama defeats clinton, the chandler bing statement ("could the networks be more wrong?"), and the picture projecting hillary as the winner.

This lead me to one conclusion... that the networks were wrong about clinton and obama had made a late surge to win again.

Boy did i feel stupid when i stated calling people with that info. Thanks guys

January 09 2008 at 2:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Rob

No you're not the only one. I was confused too (still am).

Am I really that dense or is there something I don't know?

January 09 2008 at 3:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
david

its not just you rob... getting the same response from everyone i sent this link to

i think some tvsquad writers might need a "sarcasm201 : sarcasm in writing" refresher course

January 09 2008 at 3:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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