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Is 30 Rock going downhill?

by Joel Keller, posted May 8th 2008 1:02PM
Tina FeyIn reviewing tonight's season finale of 30 Rock, Robert Bianco of USA Today took the opportunity to bemoan how the show has declined in quality since it came back from the writers' strike. Essentially, his argument centers on how the show has gotten increasingly absurd, when the show's initial attraction was how the relatively-sane Liz Lemon reacted to the insanity going on around her. Now, according to Bianco, even Liz is getting wacky, screaming for her sandwich in "Sandwich Day," for instance, or getting entangled in one romantic situation after another. According to Bianco, the show is "ditching plot and character in a desperate, scattershot search for laughs, as if its new goal were to become a live-action version of Family Guy."

Hm. Sometimes a critic picks up on subtle changes in a show others can't, at least not until it's too late and the show they loved is irreparably damaged. That might be the case here. But right now, I'm not quite seeing what Bianco is complaining about.

Except for last week's episode, the post-strike episodes of 30 Rock have been pretty funny, and seem to be consistent with how the characters have progressed to this point. We've always seen flashbacks and cartoonish moments from Liz's life. And it's not like we haven't seen her two most recent romantic entanglements coming; the thing with Floyd was never resolved, and Dennis has always been too stupid to realize that he and Liz were over.

Have things been cartoony? Sure. But that's always been the way things worked around the offices of TGS. There was a page war earlier this season, for heaven's sake!

What do you folks think? Has the show gone downhill? After all, ratings are down, even after the show's move to the post-Office slot. Maybe Bianco's not the only one who's getting turned off. Let me know in the comments.

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jason

What Bianco didn't get was that the crew at 30 Rock was sure the season was over with 210, one of the finest episodes of comic television ever. That episode, as this site noted, had season finale written all over it. The end of several plot threads, non-stop gags and an amazing musical number. These last five episodes have by no measure been bad, and certainly there has been a bit more absurdist humor, but none of it didn't fit the mold of prior episodes. And, as has already been mentioned, Bianco has obviously never killed a man for his sandwich.

Now, all that being said, I wasn't whelmed by the real season finale and will consider episodes 211-215 just an interlude between seasons. I would love to see the return of Seinfeld Vision in S3. Maybe retool it to Kramer Vision.

Jason

May 23 2008 at 3:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
The Other Drummer

The season finale blew. I feel like I have to apologize to everyone I ever encouraged to watch it. Sure, there were some funny lines/moments, but the feel of the whole episode was scattered. The ending(s) seemed hugely forced: awkwardly wedged in because of time constraints.

I'm bummed the season ended on a low note - it left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

May 09 2008 at 1:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ross Gould

Too many guest stars for my taste. Even the office in its fourth season hasn't had this many their entire run.

May 09 2008 at 1:27 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tool

I think a lot of shows have lost their quality since the strike.

I wonder if anyone has done any analysis to see if overall viewship is down. I think a lot of us found out that there is much better TV on TV than the schlock they've been feeding us.

May 08 2008 at 9:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jesus

Mike, I disagree. I think the show is quite different than it was, and that's what's breeding the contempt.

May 08 2008 at 7:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike Doran

We're all such experts on how our show isn't as good as it was when we were smart enough to discover it.The old saw is true:Familiarity breeds contempt. The problem 30 ROCK faces with its fans is simple: we've gotten used to it. Any series that gets past Season 2 has to face this, and how the showrunners handle it is what will make a classic or a near-miss. I'm betting on Tina Fey & Co.

May 08 2008 at 6:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Jim

Some of us were "smart enough" to discover it from Episode One!

Your Season Two conundrum is spot-on, though. Perhaps that is part of what makes Ricky Gervais so genius: He just pulls the plug.

May 09 2008 at 2:06 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
C C

To be truthful, I think 30 Rock has been hit-or-miss from the very beginning. There've been some unbelievably brilliant episodes, like "Rosemary's Baby". But there are others that you just feel are "fillers". It's like they have a spurt of creativity, pour it all into a single episode, then they mail the next episode or two in while they recoup their energies to set up the next transcendent script. I'm not sure I've ever seen a tv show be so inconsistent in this way.

May 08 2008 at 3:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jeff N.

I still find the show very funny. Critics drive me nuts.

May 08 2008 at 3:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Erin

I think 30 rock has found a wonderful balance with in-your-face jokes and subtle humor. I find that the subtle humor is sometimes lost on me the first time I watch an episode, because I am so focused on following the plot. But on a second or third time around, I notice things like what Frank's hat says or hidden jokes in the dialogue.

I also think that the first episode back after the strike didn't deliver in the same powerful way that The Office did, so I was disappointed. Every episode since has been fantastic!

May 08 2008 at 3:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ron mexico

I think most people already got it pegged. The show was already pretty zany and wacky. This isn't the Office, where kidnapping scenarios, and driving into lakes was getting away from the character development that made the show great. For 30 Rock, the only characters I really care about developing are Liz and Jack, and both of them have. I think sometimes TV critics just want to criticize something because it's loved by so many people, just to stand out. 30 Rock has always been crazy, that's why people love it. Lest we forget, the best moment of the season was Jack and Tracy in the therapy session!

May 08 2008 at 3:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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