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BSG podcast recap: Episodes 403-407 Commentary

by Keith McDuffee, posted May 20th 2008 3:39PM
bsgIt took a bit for Battlestar Galactica creator Ronald D. Moore to get back into his podcasts for this season's episodes, so it took me some time to catch up myself.

As I've done in the past, I'll just summarize some of what I thought were the more interesting parts of the podcasts. If you're interested in learning more about Moore's insights and details about each episode, you really should take the time to listen to the podcasts yourself. Now if only someone could sync up these podcasts with the Hulu videos, that would be awesome.

Here are the highlights ...

#403 (He That Believeth in Me)
  • RDM considers Razor as episodes 401 and 402, but just about everywhere else I believe this episode is considered the first of the season.
  • He had considered having Starbuck appear in Lee's quarters after he landed back on Galactica, rather than her show up flying beside his Viper. If Starbuck was in Lee's quarters, they could play off her being a ghost, like Head Six to Baltar, for example.
  • He almost had a scene with Anders, in the Viper, with his hand on the trigger about to shoot Seelix, pulling away at the last second.
  • The scene with Anders' glowing eye was pitched to RDM as quite more involved. Instead of one Raider, one came right upside down with his face two feet in front of his face with two other raiders coming up on both sides. Choreography was even involved. He imagines we'll see it in the deleted scenes of the DVD.
  • The pristine Viper will play a "pivotal role" in an upcoming episode. Considered a spoiler.
  • At the time of this podcast (May 5) they were shooting episode 15 (he says he directed episode 14, first he's done for the season).

#404 (Six of One)
  • RDM uses a Mac. I know geeks like me like to know these things.
  • In a few of these podcasts he starts with reading the outline of the episode as a whole. Later he stops doing this, which I'm glad for, since it's unnecessary.
  • He had considered different things happening when Roslin took Starbuck's gun, like having it not fire or the safety being on. He notes that if the safety was on, Roslin would look pretty stupid.
  • He had considered having Head Six casually point out Tory to Baltar, though he wouldn't make the connection.
  • There was a growing reluctance to use Head Baltar. RDM considered later that he should have taken it out of the scene with Tory. He says that he considers it a mistake, looking back, though says it will work within the show's mythology when the "head characters" are explained later in how they work and why.
  • Galactica will start to look more and more banged up as the season goes on.
  • Before Bill Adama met with Starbuck, RDM originally was going to have him secretly climbing into the pristine Viper, flying around and firing and screaming, as though reflecting on the decision he has to make.
  • Something else that was cut: Tyrol inspecting Kara's viper, finding hyroglyphics in one of the wheel wells. Dropped it because there was too much to have to explain and translate for viewers, what they meant, etc.

#405 (The Ties That Bind)
  • This podcast never turned up on my iTunes subscription. I had to listen to it via the website.
  • Keep your eyes on the Adama/Roslin relationship.
  • Originally RDM forgot to have Helo on the Demitrius. It took several drafts before he was alerted by the network that he hadn't been doing much with Helo this season, and he agreed.
  • Originally in one scene the Centurions were going to mimic Cavil's actions with their hands, them looking themselves over and showing how they became self aware. Decided not to go that route because of the work involved with CGI and their time constraints.
  • RDM said that Nicki Clyne (Cally) took the notice of her death well, though she said "uh oh" when she got the call, knowing it likely meant her demise.
  • RDM didn't know about the 1701-D on the door until he saw the dailies.
  • He admits it was a bit "rickety" regarding the note Cally finds in the door.
  • He makes no mention of the constellations seen through the window or during the shot of the Base Stars.
  • He originally had dialogue with Adama and Tyrol, discussing that they were still investigating.

#406 (Escape Velocity)
  • I didn't notice this myself, be he mentions that many viewers noted that Tigh has admiral pips on his collar in the early scenes. He says it's a deep mystery that he encourages everyone to analyze all over the internet, saying it could lead to who the final Cylon is, but then says it could be just a wardrobe mistake (but that's not as fun). I'm going with wardrobe mishap.
  • The book Adama reads with Laura will play into the story more this season, so keep an eye on it.
  • The plotline with Caprica Six and Tigh is something to keep an eye on -- couldn't talk about it yet but it creates groundwork for the rest of the series. Based on promos for next week's episode, that's where it will really start to play into things.
  • There's a USC jersey in Joe's Bar -- oops.
  • Tigh's rank is back to colonel in another scene later. Dun dun duuuuun!
  • Baltar should not have appeared to levitate or appear to have really been lifted. RDM thought it went too far but should still have appeared that possibly Six did it, but not so clearly.

#407 (The Road Less Traveled)
  • Tyrol's shaved head was Aaron Douglas's idea.
  • The death scene with Methias was originally much longer.
  • The episode was originally going to end with Gaeta getting shot in the leg, but they instead put that into the next episode.
  • Originally Tyrol talked in the final scene with Baltar entering his quarters. Ron thew a fit over the phone when they originally said they wanted to try Tyrol as silent. They shot both ways, but RDM saw both and decided the others were right, that their version was right for the scene.

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Hey you know what sucks? Giving a spoiler, and then afterwards writing "(considered a spoiler)". Not that it's a spoiler BEFORE giving it away, please?

May 23 2008 at 1:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

P.S. Does anyone remember when the Cylons (Symon mainly) took Starbuck's Ovaries while she returned to Caprica early on in the series? She may be the 13th... Dun DUn DUN!

May 21 2008 at 5:17 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

As an FYI, if you run Ad-Block Plus with FireFox, you can still watch videos on Hulu, and the ads get skipped. So all you need to do is start the podcast right when you start the episode and everything syncs just fine!

May 21 2008 at 5:14 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

thanks for the summaries, pls do keep it up. saves me from hearing them as i dont have much free time at the moment.

from what i'm gleaming, seems that baltar is very connected to the cylons. either he is one, or has some special relationship that has yet to be revealed.

is the cylon god a human or really a god? or a supercomputer?

May 21 2008 at 2:28 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I always thought Star Trek: Voyager would have been a better show if the ship was progressively beaten up and modified throughout the series.

May 21 2008 at 1:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Andrew Conkling

I've been reading the BSG posts on TVSquad for a few seasons now, but I think this is the first podcast post I've read. Thanks for your highlights; I don't think I'd have time for the podcasts themselves, but they're very interesting!

Regarding the heiroglyphics on Starbuck's Viper in "Six of One", can anyone explain what those refer to? Are we supposed to have some point of reference there or is that another topic that will probably be revealed later?

May 20 2008 at 10:16 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

Maybe Starbucks went to the "human regeneration ship" and was given a new Viper as a present?
This way any human on the show could be brought back for the finale... Also it would make the Cylons and the humans change roles if the Cylon regeneration ship is destroyed.

Also thinking back didn't Starbucks have something inserted into her during an op on a planet while supporting human resistance groups. I don't recall this ever going back into play.

May 20 2008 at 7:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
1 reply to Ian's comment

I always thought (And Leoben's story about Cayce on New Caprica, albeit a lie, supported this) that the Cylons removed ovaries, and didn't implant anything.

Though, I don't know if it was ever clarified other than through Leoben.

May 21 2008 at 10:18 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

you know, the way he mentioned the battering of the Galactica on the podcast made me think that it'll be destroyed by the end of the series. A fitting end to the show, I think.

May 20 2008 at 6:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I've been noticing lately that the Galactica looks more and more abused. Sad.

The Roslin/Adama book - She has it with her on the baseship. This is the relationship that I have the most interest in.

Thanks for the summary - I never would have a chance to catch up otherwise!

May 20 2008 at 5:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Akbar Fazil

thank you for this. I admit I haven't had a chance to listen to any of these. Since they were delayed I never got a chance to do so properly as I have in past seasons.

I am glad RDM feels the "Baltar levitation" scene went to far. That was one of my main beefs so far this season (but mostly because I still believe Head Six is all in Baltars head)

May 20 2008 at 4:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
1 reply to Akbar Fazil's comment

I think the "we'll learn how head characters work" suggest that they aren't, stictly, all in their head (i.e. complete figments of their imagination). Hmmmm....what does this mean for Baltar?

Regarding the Mac, there is an old saying: "Never ask a man what kind of computers he uses. If it's a Mac, he'll tell you soon enough. IF it isn't, don't embarrass him."

May 20 2008 at 4:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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