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Is the new TV season totally lame?

by Bob Sassone, posted Oct 14th 2008 1:29PM
HeroesIf you've been thinking that the new TV season isn't exciting, you're not alone. Some top TV critics have been thinking the same thing.

Time's James Poniewozik calls it "The Ratings Drought" and thinks that viewers didn't want to go back to watching the old shows after the writers strike, they wanted something new. Tim Goodman over at The San Francisco Chronicle says that the ratings for returning shows and new ones show a real disinterest from TV fans. Chuck, Heroes, and Life (all NBC shows) have seen big drops, and ABC's Pushing Daisies is even being beaten by...well, I'm let Goodman say it:

Poor "Pushing Daisies" did horribly last week - laid out even by the dreadful Knight Rider, which shouldn't even be on television. And the network can't claim one of their favorite excuses - less people are watching television - since more than 70 million watched the vice presidential debate last week. The people are out there. Thanks to the financial crises cratering our economy, those people are even at home. They're sitting right there! On the couch! But guess what? They don't like the network leftovers. Hell, they don't even like former hits...

I have to agree, to a certain extent, even beyond the ratings. We all have our favorite shows that we watch regardless of the ratings (for me it's Mad Men, Lost, Heroes, Chuck, The Office, and a few others), but there's definitely a different feeling this new season. I have shows that I used to watch but I've now given up on, and new shows that I like but have decided not to watch anymore because I watch something else at the same time or I just want to leave space in my brain for other things (such as Fringe). And for the first time, I'm actually forgetting that shows are even on now, something that never happened to me before. Maybe it's all the channels and all of the shows that we have now. It's not easy to watch TV anymore.

Oddly, I find myself watching cable networks like TCM, Food Network, AMC, and the news channels more than ABC, CBS, NBC, or FOX.

I guess we all really are watching TV differently than we used to. We watch shows online, we DVR them, and we probably don't give new shows a long time to impress us. I'm not even bothering to watch Eleventh Hour because the previews just haven't hooked me, and I watch too many similar shows. It's even gotten to the point where I'm almost happy if a show gets canceled, so I don't have to worry about watching it anymore.

And I don't think it's all about quality. For example, Heroes is one of my must-see shows. I'm really loving the new season. But I know that a lot of people have completely given up on it. And if you ask them why, they'd say something like "It's not as good as it was" or "it's ridiculous now" or "it SUX!" But I don't think that's the real reason. I think sometimes we just decide we don't want to watch something anymore.

Are you watching TV differently now?
Yup. I have some shows I watch but I've given up on others.569 (49.5%)
Nope, it's the same.297 (25.8%)
TV just really sucks right now.106 (9.2%)
All my favorite shows get canceled!178 (15.5%)

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michael

I agree with Justin, viewership is totally divided these days. But honestly, most of the time you can find a good show on Cable that is better written than the Network alternative, and with the Cable version you can usually watch them in sequence. One of the big gripes I've had over the years with Network, was the hi-jacking of episodes and spreading them out, to push and pull ratings. House comes to mind as does CSI Vegas in manipulaiting their "power" over viewers. So what happens, the writers declare a strike [over 3 cents on a DVD sale, by the way] and everything shuts down on network. So what happens? Cable hand picks their best shows [the ones they had cued up for January-March release] and drops them in our laps, in perfect sequence. Of course a lot of viewers wandered to cable and discovered shows like In Plain View, and Burn Notice, and Dexter, and one of the best shows over the past 4 years Network or not, Weeds. This year the Networks can't understand why they are losing viewers through the cracks, and they are STILL doing the hi-jack episode thing. The only thing I'll say about it is, when was the last time I watched a weeks episode, and was pre-empted for a month till the next "new" episode aired? It just isn't allowed in cable, and Network does it constantly. That's a big part of the difference, building loyalty, and being loyal to your viewers.

November 24 2008 at 5:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
michael

Sadly to the TV "NETWORKS" it's all about money, and getting by. Shows like Shark with a mid-range rating get bumped from Thursday to Sunday at 10pm, the dark hole of death to any show. Moonlight's budget runs too high, the toss it out with the bath water even though ratings were coming up. Of course the Reality Shows, which in "reality" are scripted from day one [or do you really think they just magically come up with 3 camera pulls of conversations 300 feet away, with perfect audio and handicam mixed in for good measure]. Sure, it's just a coincedence the 85 of the last 97 contestants on the big Network Reality fare have all been actors/actresses pretending to be real people. Honestly, those shows are almost FREE using out of work actors making scale, when you consider the effect and salary budget of the average CSI [take your pick] venture. Then, the Networks bring back tired, old, lame shows that should have died years ago, becuase they can't afford to try something new and give it 1/2 a season to blend and build a following. Give me fresh shows like Weeds, True Blood, Californication, 30 Rock, Starter Wife, Burn Notice, and In Plain Sight, any day of the week, over CSI [insert City here] year number 23.

November 24 2008 at 5:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
EMJAY

WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY BORING TELEVISION SEASON. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PRISON BREAK AND TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES, I HAVE COMPLETELY GIVEN UP ON T.V. I WAS WAITING FOR LAS VEGAS TO PREMIERE BECAUSE LAST SEASON ENDED WITH A CLIFFHANGER BUT I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF THE SHOW TWO WEEKS AGO. THEY CANCEL LAS VEGAS AND REPLACE IT WITH KNIGHT RIDER? GIVE ME A BREAK. OCCASIONALLY I'LL WATCH WEEDS OR THE OFFICE, BUT WITH EVERY PASSING SEASON I SEEM TO BE GOING TO THE VIDEO STORE MORE OFTEN. IS NIP/TUCK GOING TO HAPPEN SOON OR DID THEY CANCEL THAT TOO?

November 21 2008 at 9:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
lilkunta

U GOTTA BE KIDDIN bc Heroes does suck. It is very confusing.

October 20 2008 at 11:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Justin

I think a big change in ratings isn't so much as fewer people watching or even being engaged, it's that (and I'm sure some will get angry with this sentiment but I could really care) intelligent TV watchers have gravitated to certain shows, those looking just for outlandish entertainment have locked onto their shows, and stupid people are enjoying watching their mindless television.

There's very little crossover in TV anymore. There were shows when most of us were growing up (the 80s and 90s I presume) that combined some of wit and witlessness into one package of smart, funny, quirky, and stupid. Friends and Seinfeld come to mind quickly--both centered around characters and plots both insanely genius and insanely stupid. It's no mystery why they succeed in syndication--they still hold up and meld a lot of TV genres and styles into one 22-minute package.

I watch something like 30 Rock and I think it's complete trash, so I don't watch. However, there are many people who love it and do watch. But it's a splintering show--you either like it or you don't. The same can be said about most sitcom or comedy-based television these days. The humor is one track and either you like that track or you jump it to find something that appeals to you.

Dramas are where I think the intelligence vs. stupidity vs. illogical/logical entertainment argument is truly in play. Some people are going to view the more 'intelligent' shows and think they are pretentious, long-winded, and boring. Some people are going to look at more 'mindless' television and think it's far-fetched, over-the-top, and devoid of any logical plot. Of course there are exceptions to the rule (Lost seemingly being full over the top moments but also challenging viewers who may think themselves as intelligent to dig up weird coincidences that may or may not be relevant) but it seems to me that TV's becoming more niche; more fragmented. And to be fair, it has to. Cable became niche and found larger audiences in the past decade, so it only seems right that networks are going to go that route to try to tap back into the audience they seemingly lost.

October 17 2008 at 4:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jim

I've stopped watching TV since Arrested Development was cancelled - no comedy comes close to that show (altho I've been impressed by Sunny and Conchords). Dramas... meh. House and Sarah Connor are watchable. Not sure if I'll come back to 24 either, altho I'll let the two-hour TV-movie do the swaying.

I just don't trust the networks. They don't value good scripts anymore. If you write it, they will come. And bring back AD, someone.

October 16 2008 at 1:28 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mel

I cannot stress enough how much tv sucks right now. It's the worst it has ever been. I watch Prison Break and that's it (which by the way is getting a little ridiculous, but I continue to watch it because I want to see what happens between Michael and Sarah romantically. I could care less about finding all those cards they're searching for.) I've checked out a few new shows, like Fringe, Knight Rider, Eleventh Hour and My Own Worst Enemy. They are all HORRIBLE and BORING. If it wasn't for DVD's of past shows, my tv would be in the garbage. Or maybe I'd be dead from an Advil overdose because of the constant never ending headaches I'd have watching junk they call tv shows.

October 15 2008 at 3:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bas

Life and Supernatural are my only "Must Not Miss" shows.

Of the new shows, I've tried Fringe, The Mentalist, Eleventh Hour, Life on Mars, Kath & Kim, and My Own Worst Enemy: Hated Kath & Kim and Enemy, liked the rest, but they will probably get cancelled so I'm not investing a lot of time in them.

I still watch CSI (the original) and Bones. Heroes is still on my watch list, but I don't know for how much longer - it's getting too convoluted even for a comic book.

Comedies are never "must see" for me - they always go into reruns and syndication, so you can catch episodes any time without losing any narrative thread.

October 15 2008 at 12:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Adam

I guess I am in the minority. I watch/TiVo

Sanctuary
Knight Rider (yes I know) (Deanna Russo)
90210 (ditto)
Life
Chuck (Yvonne Strahovski)
Terminator
Reaper (Miss Peregrym)
Wipeout (Jill Wagner)
Fringe (Anna Torv)
CSI
CSI:NY
CSI:Miami
Eleventh Hour
My Own Worst Enemy

October 15 2008 at 9:47 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Brian

Everyone check out the "Mentalist". The show really is funny and keeps you on your toes. Returning favorite so far in my opinion is "Criminal Minds". The season premier not only had me holding my breath but crying in relief at the end.
spoonergirl
wilmington,nc

October 15 2008 at 3:42 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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