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Lost: The Lie

by Jonathan Toomey, posted Jan 21st 2009 11:01PM

Jorge Garcia(S05E02) "There's no calling my father off." - Penny

Everybody lies. Some people enjoy the thrill of getting away with it ... and then there's Hurley. While this wasn't a traditional flash-back/flash-forward episode with one character as the focus (hard to say if those will ever be feasible again), this was pretty much a Hurley-centric hour anyway.

As the plot progresses this season, it's going to be interesting to see who becomes important (and who becomes irrelevant) to the ultimate endgame. That being said, we learned one pretty important fact in this episode:

Without Hugo in the mix, "then God help us all."

Of course, the same could apparently be said for any of the Oceanic Six, but I'll come back to that. Let's address the island first. A lot did and didn't happen all at the same time in tonight's second hour. While there weren't any time flashes ("Because You Left" had three or four), there was still plenty of action. Currently, they're in the past (or else Bernard wouldn't have had to make a new fire), and just when it seemed as though things were calming down, the remaining island folk were attacked by a barrage of flaming arrows - one of which claimed the ever annoying Neil Frogurt's life. The main things to take away from all this?
  • Who attacked them? Two options. Either the DHARMA Initiative or The Others. Right now, either would make sense to me, but I'm leaning towards The Others, only because flaming arrows seem far more primitive. Plus, we know DHARMA patrol goons have guns, as evidenced by the attack on Juliet and Sawyer. Also worth noting? When Locke saved their lives, he used his knife - it's the one item that still serves him and serves him well. So I'll pose the question again: Why did Richard balk when young John chose the blade?
  • One other island tidbit - Faraday knows something about Charlotte's condition (bloody nose, headaches, memory loss), but he isn't saying anything. Why? What harm could come of it ... unless harm could come of it.

OK, back to the mainland - that's where most of this episode took place. First, let's talk about Hurley and his vision of Ana Lucia. If we can assume (and I think this is a safe assumption) that Hurley is intrinsically good, then it's also safe to infer that his visions are offering honest and good advice to him. If that's the case, then he should have heeded Ana Lucia's warning to not get arrested. But he did at the end to escape Ben. Hurley thinks he's doing the right thing here based on Sayid's advice to not trust Ben. (Speaking of which, what happened between Sayid and Ben? They were on the same team for a while.) Anyway, Hurley might actually be doing the wrong thing by not going back - at least that's what I'm thinking.

More thoughts on "The Lie":

  • What did everyone think of the conversation between Sun and Kate? Sun told Kate that she didn't blame her for Jin's death. Remember, on the freighter, Kate said she would get Jin, but Jack stopped her and brought her to Frank's chopper instead. Anyway, the entire conversation struck me the same as the one Sun had with Widmore in tonight's first hour - she seemed fake. Sun came across as cold and calculating, saying what needed to be said in an effort to then elicit answers to the questions she really cares about. Like "how's Jack?" I can't put my finger on it yet, but it seems like Sun is up to something. I do think she blames Kate in some regard, and I don't think she just wants Ben dead - at least not in the same way as Widmore does.
  • One other point Sun made that I liked? Regarding the lawyers who came to Kate's door, she was right in saying that if they wanted to expose the lie, then they just would. I think this lends more fuel to the "Ben is their client" fire. He wants Kate spooked because it'll make it easier to convince her to join the group.
  • What happened to Frank? On The Searcher, after being rescued, he agreed to go along with the lie with everyone else. However, if you recall, prior to joining Abbadon's group, Frank was a bit of a Flight 815 conspiracy theorist, and I can't see him just laying this all to rest. So what's he up to three years later?
  • It seems as though Ben has eyes and ears everywhere - Jill at the butcher shop and her cronies, Gabriel and Jeffrey. What exactly are they all up to, and how did he recruit them? And here's a question for you - what did Ben take out of the AC vent at the motel?
  • How did Miles find the boar? Do his "talk to the dead" telepathy powers extend to animals, as well? Or was he conversing with someone who had died and knew of the boar's body?
  • The one thing I loved about Ben's conversation with Hurley? While he tried to pacify Hurley with the reassurance that if Hurley came back with him to island, he'd never have to lie again, I couldn't help but think, "Ben is lying."

The final moments of the episode were arguably the best few minutes of tonight's whole two hours. We watched as a hooded figure furiously scribbled equations on a chalkboard, checked a computer that looked eerily similar to the same one Desmond had to use in the Swan, and waited patiently as a giant pendulum drew intersecting chalk lines on the floor. The computer flashed "Event Window Determined," and that's when it all made sense. The hooded figure was trying to determine where in time the island was. A few thoughts on the reveal:

  • Ms. Hawking! Now after Daniel's mention of his mother earlier tonight, it seems an awfully safe bet that she is the Faraday matron. However, Daniel said his mother was in Oxford. How did Ben get from LA to Oxford? If so, he has a way to travel there pretty fast (it was the same night that Hurley surrendered), which would lead to something many have speculated about - could there be DHARMA stations all over the planet? Regardless, Hawking is still my guess for the mother. Why else would she share so many of the same "interests" as Daniel?
  • Why are there only 70 hours? Presumably, that's how long her calculations indicated before the next flash.
  • Why is Hurley key? Why can't they return to the island without the complete Oceanic Six? Why don't Frank or Desmond need to present, as well? Or do they?

OK, that's all I've got. My head hurts, and I hope yours does too. See you back here next Wednesday when Lost returns to a non-headache inducing one hour a week with the third episode of the new season, "Jughead."

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prav777

Who attacked the Losties?There is no way the show can start this year on the high that ended last year, but I'm sure they will have right there again by the end of this season. But I have to say, I kinda agree with Dane Cook: "I have 42 new questions and no god damn answers!"

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January 28 2009 at 11:48 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
prav777

Who attacked the Losties?There is no way the show can start this year on the high that ended last year, but I'm sure they will have right there again by the end of this season. But I have to say, I kinda agree with Dane Cook: "I have 42 new questions and no god damn answers!"

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January 28 2009 at 11:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pjmbpjmp

If the oceanic six were outside the range of the island when it moved in time and now they need to get back to make things right, and Locke was inside the range of the island when the island moved and his body also has to get back, What about Walt. He was on the plane when it crashed and was outside the range of the island when it moved in time. Wouldn't he need to get back also?

January 27 2009 at 11:28 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Will

I enjoy reading all the comments but, please people, stop complaining about the commercials. The show costs A LOT of money to make & the ads pay for that. If it really bugs you that much, tape the show & FF thru the ads. I actually like a lot of breaks, gives me a chance to think & go to the john or get a drink. But mainly, I like to watch free tv & the ads make that possible. Thanks.

January 25 2009 at 12:59 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Trudy

It is always good to read what others have gleaned - yes, I noticed the black eyes on the hooded woman. Maybe that is why I didn't recognize her as the same woman from several seasons ago in the jewelry store. Faraday in the flash back where they first find the wall hiding the donkey wheel was down right demonic... Ben's bugeyes always creep me out, but you're right - they were glassy and black in that last scene. Sorry I have no answers. I wonder about Sun's mystery too.

January 23 2009 at 2:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Stacie

I noticed the black eyes, too, and Daniel's crazy light eye when he was talking to Desmond. Anyone else? Was it just the TV?

January 23 2009 at 2:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
MERVE-THE-PERVE

I don't get why Alpert remembered Locke after he was shot but then told him next time they saw each other that Alpert wouldn't remember him. The compass points North was a great line.

January 23 2009 at 1:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JC

As for "Ginger's" nosebleed - remember the folks who have had problems jumping through time and have died? A couple people on the freighter, I believe, and Desmond got a nosebleed before Penny became his constant. Their first sign that they were dying was a nosebleed.

January 23 2009 at 1:41 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
patsysueflint

i tape everthing anymore,cut out the commercials

January 23 2009 at 9:10 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
stacywitt

Well it was a good premiere, and left lots of questions.

My first thought is about Sun, it showed a short clip of her with the baby as a newborn, then when she showed Kate a picture is was a newborn still, so is the baby dead now? Remember she was concieved on the island after all. Why would she have such a old picture of her daughter considering she must be about 2 now. And if she did lose the baby that would give some motive to sending lawyers after Kate. Something to ponder.

Next since the O-6 are now 3 years later but what we see of the island people is still the past from when they first left the island is that meaning that they are stuck in time, or that time moves slower on the island, and if that is the case what will they think about the 6 when/if they get back to the island and they are 3 years older, will they get pissed that they took that long to come back.

Also I don't rememeber them showing that Claire was actually dead, she just kinda dissapeared so she may still be there on the island somewhere. And considering that they showed her talking with the man in the cabin, maybe she learned something about what was going to happen and thought it best to stay gone and let them take her baby off the island.

As so for the redhead and the nose bleeds and headaches, when Desmond first went to the frieghter didn't they say something about anyone who was exposed to radiation or something could die during the cross over, and then that is when he started his visions. So maybe that is what she is going through.

And for the arrows attack, I agree it was not Darma or the others, I think they went back further in time when other people were on the island.

January 22 2009 at 11:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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