I hope Gaeta dies a slow death...

Late to the game here - YES!!! This was a frakking awesome episode - I was like on the edge of my set the whole time. WOW!! Awesome!!

Am I the only one who noticed that the Cylons in the Fleet (Tigh's pregnant 6, Athena, Tyrol, etc..) were showing more human emotions than the Humans? Athena was concerned for her daughter, Tigh's 6 was concerned about her unborn child, Tyrol was concerned about helping Adama, because he considered Adama to be a "Good Guy" (or something to that effect), while the humans chose to see everything as Black and White - you are either on my side or you are my enemy. The most savage acts were commited by the humans, while the Cylons were concerned with their more "Human" troubles.

There is also the matter of practicality. I understand why people do not trust the cylons....thy obliterated humanity, no question about it. I realize it is easier for me to defend the cylons because of my affections for the eights. but putting that aside for now (well, maybe I won't go that far) let me present Adama's case for an alliance with the cylons.

Consider the the cylons now with the fleet. They are shot all to hell, they have been decimated by their own people, and they even helped the humans destroy their only means of resurrecting themselves. These are not the indications of a people with sinister motives.

These are not the same cylons that hated humanity. Not the eights. Not Boomer. I would not be surprised if we eventually learn that the eights were not in favor of destroying the colonies. But that is another subject.

So now Adama is clinging to his last grip on the edge. Supplies are low, morale is down, people continue to die. He has the means to jump-start the disolving hopes of the fleet, and the rebel cylons are the best game in town. Like Spock, when he ignited those fuel cells in the episode "The Galieo Seven" Adama would rather go for broke rather than dwindle to a slow but sure demise. An infusion of daring leadership is needed. It is time "to roll the hard six".

Glad to see I wasnt the only one that was rooting for Gaeta. Cylons killed everyone they new back on Caprica, hunted them like dogs for years and when they start to settle on a planet barely qualified to support human life they are invaded and enslaved.

They've made in this far without toaster technology. Supplies have been "getting low" since the first episode yet they've always managed and they did so without any fancy-dancy FTL-cylon-drive. Considering the low moral of the fleet after finding the disappointment that is Earth you'd think Adama would at least discuss the possiblity of the impact it would have on the fleet to accept the cylon's help. He doesn't discuss it. He doesnt give anyone any options. When elected officials voice opinions he ignores them. I'm on Gaeta's side on this. The Galactica has survived years without Cylon tech and can carry on without it. To force an alliance between humans and cylons down the throats of a fleet who doesnt want it just to make things a little easier is just asking for trouble.

I know the writers are wanting to end the series with "give peace a chance" type messsage but somethings jsut cant be forgiving. Would the Jewish community ally with Nazi's? This is what we're talking about. Genocide can't be forgiven and if the series ends with cylons and humans living together in harmony it will be a completely false ending to a show that has shown such truthfullness in the human condition... both bright and dark.

Benjh: It all comes down to trust. And Gaeta was THERE during the build-up and explanations...he was fine with things until the experience on the raptor. That frakked him up...
Adama and Roslyn have brought everyone this far...saved their lives on New Caprica...and countless other times throughout the series. People never learn do they?

Trust. Would you trust someone like Adama? Frak yes.

Am I the only one who understands Gaeta's point of view?

I mean, yes, you should be able to forgive (as in, maybe, the next generation can work on a truce), but here, they're allying with the exact same people who nuked earth and destroyed their entire civilization, and are not showing that much remorse (except for the odd Boomer).

Or maybe it's that the producers did a bad job selling the importance of those FTL. In my mind, they're just trying to save a few months, and it's not worth it.

The series has always dealt with the problem of democracy against dictatorship in times of crisis, and reading the comments it seems like everyone is siding with dictatorship.

I'm a little surprised, that's all, but curious to hear what you think.

Gee, I didn't realize that geezers like me don't have the same kind of 'love' that you whippersnappers do. What, you think only the young have passion? They aren't THAT old!!!

Holy frak! I was at the edge of my seat the entire episode! All I can say is that Felix Gaeta makes my stomach turn...I cannot wait for his come-uppence. Slime-ball who will not shut his mouth. Great to see Lee and Kara team-up again...reminds me of the "Colonial Day" ep in Season 1. Ahh...the days when cylons were cylons and Tigh had an eye!

I can't help but feel like humans were responsible for the *other* cylons death on *Earth* ... the opposite of what happened to Adama and their humans ... So, when Apollo and the other humans get all high and mighty ... it could turn out they're just as guilty for the crimes of genocide.