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A question I have about last night's Lost

by Bob Sassone, posted Apr 2nd 2009 1:25PM
LostLost continues to impress me. I really do think it's one of the great TV dramas of all-time, and last night's episode was rock solid. Except for one thing I'm going to be nit-picky about.

OK, so Sawyer and Kate bring young injured Ben to the Others so they can save him, and Richard tells them that, yeah, I can save him, but he won't remember what happened to him and he'll lose his innocence. Up until now we (and Hurley and Miles, in one of the episodes best scenes) were wondering why Ben didn't remember that Sayid shot him as a kid when he became an adult. And the writers quickly solve this by just having his memory erased?

That seems really, really...lame.

Isn't it just an easy out for the writers, to explain all of that away? Wouldn't it have been more interesting if Ben had actually remembered all this time that Sayid had shot him back in 1977 and this was why he became what he became and why he had been doing certain things since the start of the show? It's another clue that the writers haven't really known where this has been going since the beginning, which is fine (I don't expect every single plot thread and episode to be consistent when this is all over), but it just seems a little random and easy for me.

So here's my question (and it's what some readers are wondering about too): why can't someone just tell Ben that this happened?

Maybe it could be Richard, maybe Sayid, maybe Locke once he finds out. Not that any of these people would want to get Sayid in trouble by exposing that he shot young Ben, but it seems to me they could talk to older Mr. Linus. "Oh Ben, by the way? Sayid shot you in 1977 and then you were taken to the Others who brought you into a weird temple which made you forget everything."

Of course, I might be getting ahead of the game here. Maybe the Lost folks already have the answers to all of this planned. Maybe Ben already found this out some how in the past several years. Ben has woken up now and seen that Locke is still alive (still not sure if that was surprise on his face or if he always knew that Locke would come back) and the description for next week's episode says that Ben goes to find the smoke monster so he can be judged, so maybe all of this will be answered.

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Dano107214

What I'm wondering is... When 'Richard et others' took Ben and 'fixed' him, did they make the bullet hole disappear? Surely Jack would have seen it when he operated on Ben and probably would have said something about it.

April 07 2009 at 11:10 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
gina

Ok guys, thanks for clearing so much up. But, I still say that Richard Alpert is the one to watch. He never ages, he never leaves the island, he knows everything about everyone and even gets to hang out in the temple with the black smoke. WTH?

April 07 2009 at 3:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lady Sihona

So Ben has "lost his memory" BUT he obviously goes back to live with the Dharma Initiative until hes an adult.does he remember Kate, Sawyer etc?? He may not remember the Sayid shooting incident, but does he remember Kate etc? or will they disapear into the future by the time Ben comes back from the temple?even if they do disapear he still would hear about them from the rest of the Dharma Initiative.So what exactly has Ben been planning all this time that hes known about Kate atc?Coz hes bound to remember them!
Also why is Richard always the same age in the past & future.he's always with the others.how come hes not in charge? y did he choose Ben to be in charge? & Charles to be in charge in the past? Surely if Richard has been there longer then he would want to be in charge?

April 07 2009 at 9:29 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Will

This is a little late to comment, sorry, but I just wanted to mention to Cindy, on the last page, that the Other said to Richard, "Ask Ellie or Charles", not Neely. As in Elanor, the jewerly-store lady & time travel expert. We saw a young version of her (at least, we assume it was her) back in "Jughead", set in the '50's. I also liked Richard's comment, "I don't answer to them". I read a comment awhile back that I think was right on, that Richard is the true leader on the island, he justs takes a 2nd place seat to Widmore, Ben or whoever, for reasons not yet clear. I think by the end of the series, we'll know how central he has been to the story.

April 06 2009 at 1:22 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
cress d

Dammit! I'm ready for my Desmond-centric episode!

April 04 2009 at 1:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
donkey23

Well...I've asked more of other shows before, but...I'm going to give the writers a pass on this one. They are telling a story, and this is the story they have chosen to tell. It kind of is rational to me, too.

Ben is an innocent kid until this precise point in time. Then this event sets in motion his becoming the man we know him as, and everything before is lost to him. That's not so hard to stomach. Besides, traumatic events like being shot are often portrayed as (and may also in reality be) shocks to the system that prevent memories from forming. Your brain does have defense mechanisms like that--and you see that all the time and its PERFECTLY acceptable.

That's why I like amazo's comment best--its the irony that in trying to not save Ben because he becomes this evil person, Jack in fact causes it to come about. You can't fool with time...

April 04 2009 at 3:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Yesenia

Well, Richard said "he won't remember any of THIS", he didn't say "he won't remember anything". Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I feel like the memory wipe is exclusive to whatever will happen in the temple.

Also, it continues to baffle me as to why people are assuming Ben doesn't remember Sayid shooting him because he's never mentioned it. Wow, how much information has Ben kept to himself? Especially when he was first caught, why in the world would he point out that Sayid shot him as a child??

Now, that doesn't mean I'm sure Ben remembers and has just kept quiet (he may not), but we can't assume he doesn't b/c he has mentioned it. Come on, it's Ben.

April 03 2009 at 12:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
StillBash

Sure it SEEMS lame.

But that's just like the first half of every Harry Potter book...

April 03 2009 at 12:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tate

Um... just wanna put this out there. In the next episode ben will "be judged by the smoke monster". I want to point out that way back in season 3 we found out that the Monster has some sort of power over memories. Eko stared into the smoke and saw images from his past. Also, the monster made him see and fight people from his past who weren't actually there.So the monster is probably what erases Ben's memories.
My point is this memory thing didn't come out of nowhere.

April 02 2009 at 10:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Cody

Richard said he'll lose his innocence, and he'll have always been one of them. Why does he have to lose his memories for that to happen? He was already interested in becoming a Hostile. Maybe the simple act of them saving his life makes him eternally loyal to them, with all of his memories in place. Right? I think you're jumping to too fast of a conclusion.

April 02 2009 at 10:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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jffm

"Richard said he'll lose his innocence, and he'll have always been one of them. Why does he have to lose his memories for that to happen?"
Richard doesn't say that that "has to happen" for Ben to become one of the Hostiles, he only says that losing his memories, his "innocence" and being "one of us" from that point forward are all consequences of whatever is going to be done to save Ben's life.

April 02 2009 at 11:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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