The ratings system has got to be flawed. Terminator was my favorite show and the favorite show of most of the people I know. Everything about the show was amazingly well done.

Fox is actually putting Michael Strahan (the New York Football Giants defensive end) in a sitcom called "Brothers" on their Friday night schedule this fall.

WTH OMG your idiocy is appalling Fox!!!

And Why oh WHY!!! didn't someone else pick up Terminator like a brick of gold bullion laying in the street!

Madness! This is even worse than Firefly, Dark Angel and Cleopatra 2525!!!

IF those ratings ARE true than this country is just plain sick.

Look at the crap playing on Lifetime, MTV, and all over the major networks and yet you are telling me that no one... absolutely no one sees value in TSCC. SICK.

A joke among statisticians is that the definition of statistics is "numbers sufficiently tortured to achieve the desired results." Frankly I think the rating numbers for TSCC do not accurately reflect the viewing audience. I like many others that are commenting of the possible renewal of the show, watch it online, or DVR, sometimes more than once per episode. I am so tired of the drivel that makes up so much of the current programming. Good writing, scrip development, special effects, traveling to shooting locations are all expensive, and it is easy to understand why Fox may well cancel the series. But just for consideration, Chrysler was told that when they first considered offering two back doors to their then popular minivans as an option, less than 20 percent of the purchasers would opt for the second door- the actual number was greater than 90 percent and they eventually just decided to make the second door standard. And there was the new Coke, heavily researched, clearly superior to the original, so much in fact that the old Coke ceased to exist - for awhile. Where is the new Coke now? Morale of the story, forget the numbers, look at the quality of the show and make your advertising people earn their keep. The show is a keeper, Fox just needs to learn how to effectively promote it and place it in a time slot that compliments its appeal, Fringe and TSCC should be teamed together.

FOX is just plain fracked up and should terminate their entire marketing division. The show's failure is Fox's marketing failure. They could have done some great cross-marketing with T4 and showed a TSCC commercial during viewings of T4. Having the season finale a month before the movie comes out is simply retarded. They could have grabbed some curious viewers who see the movie.
I love the show and it just pisses me off that Fox failed another great show.

"That doesn't include the massive online viewing and downloads for this show.

Advertisers love it, becasue they know that Nielsen undercounts typical SciFi viewers, so they get discount ad rates, while advertising their products to the people with disposable income that they want to reach."
Advertisers get bubkes from downloads, if you're talking BT and Usenet; they don't include the advertisements. And online replays generally only have one sponsor, leaving most out in the cold.

They could glean some return from product placement, but that still leaves most advertisers out in the cold. I don't even know if there's a consensus yet on how effective product placement is compared to traditional advertising.

I agree about those who would be interested in this type of show is the demographic of those who would likely download this via the web. This show is constantly in the tops of downloads at certain dl sites. heck, it's still top 100 on TPB right now with 1,958 ppl downloading as we speak.

If the major networks would offer up a similar type of download/share service where they would be able to count viewers, even with commercials, i would glady subscribe to that method without hesitation since i know the source would be legit, and reliable. Hopefully they'll get the message before all these shows continue to fade away before their due...

I really wish SyFy had the resources to continue this and Dollhouse, they could really revitalize their stagnant b-movie and wrasslin lineup.

TSCC is at the low end of of cost for SciFi dramas (actually about 1.5 - 2M a week). That's very cheap ("Heroes" costs 4M an episode).

TSCCs' DVR demo numbers increased the demo by 68% for "Adam Raised a Cain (from a 1.3 in the Demo to about 2.0), and have been steadily increasing (up from 35% to 45% to 68%) each week that its been back.

That doesn't include the massive online viewing and downloads for this show.

Advertisers love it, becasue they know that Nielsen undercounts typical SciFi viewers, so they get discount ad rates, while advertising their products to the people with disposable income that they want to reach.

im in canada and its a long weekend here i dont know about the u.s. i figured it was the same.

Good show but it requires too much patience and attention from the audience. There are few americans who can tie together a show's arc over 2 seasons. Not even Veronica Mars attempted to carry concepts and themes that far!

Of all the shows for Fox to take a risk on and bring back for another season, it should be TSCC. I think with T4 coming out and the buzz around the second season finale of TSCC, it would be worth the risk to give TSCC at least one more season. The show was just showing it's potential with much better writing toward the end of season 2. As everyone has said, the live viewership shouldn't be the only thing to take into consideration. That number is very misleading. There's way more fans of the series then that.