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I actually understand what Nigel was trying to say on SYTYCD

by Jason Hughes, posted May 23rd 2009 8:10AM
Nigel LythgoeAs a former male dancer, I understand Nigel's point about the male and female roles in partner dancing. And Mary's confusion in figuring out how to judge Misha Belfer and Mitchel Kibel, two guys who partnered on a samba. The roles of each partner are very clearly defined in that form of dance, and they are traditionally gender specific. What didn't work out as well was Nigel's pithy little jokes. He went the easy route saying things like the boys "might actually like it" about dancing with girls, even though they've done so in the past.

What you have to consider is he followed that up by telling a contestant who performed in a bizarre lion costume with lightsabers that she was clearly from a different planet. So I think it's more a matter of poorly considered attempts at humor than that Nigel Lythgoe is a homophobe, as he's being accused now by GLAAD. He attempts to spice up the show and make it entertaining with his little comments. We all say stupid and insensitive things that we don't mean from time to time. Maybe it needed to be edited out before broadcast.

Now Nigel's not helping matters by Tweeting "I'm not a fan of Brokeback ballroom" as a further clarification of his stance. Yes, he's just talking about the fact that ballroom is a traditional form of dance that is done with a man and a woman in well-defined masculine and feminine roles. It would be like having a man compete in Miss America. It's a feminine role that doesn't work the same way when a man does it. It would have to be a different pageant with men, and two men dancing ballroom has to be a different form of dance than what we see now.

Nigel has been consistent in wanting men to dance in a masculine way and he's been pretty consistent about not caring if someone is gay, as long as they dance in that defined masculine way. It may be a narrow-minded way to look at an ever evolving form of expression like dance, but I don't think it is homophobia, as GLAAD President Neil G. Giuliano is now accusing him of. He's demanding an apology from everyone involved in the show and Fox.

I think it would be hard to be a homophobe and surround yourself in the world of dance. Certainly you have to expect that you're going to encounter gay dancers at a higher rate than say professional football players. After all, you do have to be comfortable in your body and at least in touch with your feminine side to effectively embrace all the varieties of dance. Plus, you have to deal with a great deal of ridicule from the truly homophobic among us. I don't think Nigel is a homophobe, I just think he's a bit insensitive about the issue and a bit of a putz.

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Dave

I just with that TVSquad would start their blog on SYTYCD so I can wax lyrical about the totty:o)

May 26 2009 at 10:49 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CC

I don't feel there was anything wrong with what Nigel said. He's consistently stated that he wants guys to dance like guys (as do I).

As for his comment implying that the two guys dancing together would alienate people - I don't think it was that much of a stretch. Even I don't want to see the two of them doing the samba together and I have lots of gay friends (being a ballet dancer and all). I would guess that there is a notable % of people who would be offended (religious reasons or whatnot), plus another % that, while not offended, would rather not see two guys dancing ballroom together.

It's just a personal preference - just think of it as someone preferring to watch sports over dance, or horror films rather than documentaries.

May 24 2009 at 1:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Audrey A

What Nigel said might not have been totally appropriate, but it's not like they haven't have gay dancers on the show before. I think the idea of two men or even two women dancing together is nice but very unrealistic. I don't know what they expected by auditioning like that, knowing how the show works if they made it on. Did they think that if they made it on that if they were dancing with a woman that they woman should dance the males role? Also, if they had been wildly talented they would have made it on the show, that had nothing to do with the fact that they were gay, they just didn't have the talent.

May 23 2009 at 1:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
sarah

I don't think Nigel's comment is insinuating that the people watching a dance show have a problem with homosexuality... i think he means that people watch the show to see the juxstaposition of masculinity and femininity that comes along with traditional dance. and he is right. there is a reason that millions and more tune into the show every summer. whenever two or more men dance together on the show, they are not arm in arm, one is not playing the traditional female role of following, etc.

he is telling the truth. he is not annoying. he is definitely not ruining the show.

May 23 2009 at 12:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ross

bad comedy does not always equal hate. it was a weak joke; why can't america leave it at that?

May 23 2009 at 10:16 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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yolondamhill

Because some americans take everything so seriously. They always think the worse of people. It would have been differently if he had said that he didn't like gays. And maybe the president of glaad is forgetting that he did send them to the choreography part and the male dancer who really is gay went on to Vegas. People need to stop making a big deal out of things, and take this comment for what it was, a bad joke.

May 23 2009 at 10:53 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SarahAnn

Maybe because Nigel was insulting us when he said that two male partners might alienate the show's audience, insinuating that the people watching a dance show have a problem with homosexuality. When that same audience is probably made of a lot of gay viewers and a lot of the show's dancers are gay too. That comment really annoyed me, and that was just the last of all the stupid things Nigel says. He is becoming more and more unbearable, and he's starting to ruin the show.

May 23 2009 at 10:58 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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