I hate this show, the characters are weak, the military utterly incompetant.

When you go through spec ops selection it includes psychiatric evaluation, and from what I saw in the first few episodes, NONE of those in the Stargate program would have passed.

They have taken the solid name of Stargate and the goodwill of the Air Force and US Military in general and made a mockery of them. This is the main reason why the Air Force has NOT had anything to do with this show.

I feel sorry for Richard Dean Anderson and the amazing job he did as Colonel then General O'Neill. He has show up to try and "legitimize" this pathetic show.


But I guess that SYFY channel has nothing better in the wings. This show over 1/2 of it's first season has already lost 1/4 - 1/3 of it's viewers, and the numbers aren't rising. So whatever their "target" audience is, they haven't reached it, as this series ranks dead last in ratings against the other 2.

I was actually very happy when Young left Rush on the planet. It was well deserved! Rush has been manipulating people and events for his own agenda since the beginning - one of the reasons they are hurtling thru space as it is. And why several people are dead. His machinations are directly responsible for that man being in a coma (although I saw that one coming...) Based on what he said on the planet "Are we done?" "I'll never be done!!!" it wasn't going to stop. I think the beating that Young gave him was deserved too. A little corporal punishment for the gravity of what he did and had been doing. I also think that Rush pushed Young just a little too far. Rush felt like he was indispensible and that he could do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, because they couldn't do without him. And Young told him, very simply, you're wrong. And as far as being indispensible - Eli is right up there and actually, I think a little smarter...

Great point about the ship that disengaged from the ship - I actually have wondered/believed that it was an alien intruder and they might be behind the problems that they had on the ship at the beginning.

I also, like many, believe that Rush will be back, but I'm hoping that being left and almost dying will humble him a bit.

I am waiting to see what the aliens will look like and how they will become enemies. You had the Wraith in SGA and the Goul in SGI. I think that the creatures in the time episode may be a type of goul. I want more action. I want to see the big guns. I like the developement of the charaters but enough with the personel sex life. I really don't care if one is a homo or who is sleeping with who. Bring out the damn guns.

As satisfying as it was to see Young beat Rush down and leave him stranded on the planet, and as interesting an episode as this was on the surface, I have to agree with Ian that it was a horrible decision by Young to, in effect, appoint himself judge, jury and executioner. Especially after he had been such a stickler for following correct procedure during the invesigation of Spencers suicide. Its such a jarring inconsistency in Youngs character. Now Young looks like a violence prone loose cannon with poor decision making ability. Just what you want when trapped on an ageing alien space ship that is hurtling you through space uncontrollably.
And I have to say that I believe the loss(for now) of Rush isnt really much of a loss, since Rush talked a big game but delivered very little of value. Rush was a net liability when you factor in his lack of honesty, his personal agenda that clashed with everyone and everything else and his unreliabilty. Someone mentioned that it would have made sense to confine Rush to quarters and limit his activities. That would have made more sense than letting him spend all of his time in the control room, with unlimited access to all the ships systems and controls. Or marooning him on a planet either, for that matter.
And why did Wray feel it was up to her to direct Johansens medical treatment of Franklin and order her to give him drugs that Johansen was only speculating would be effective? Can you imagine Capt. Kirk telling Dr. McCoy how to treat a patient? McCoys response would be something along the lines of "I'm a doctor Jim, not a
snot-nosed ensign that you can order around. This mans medical treatment is my responsibility, not yours!" And he would be right. Wray was also out of line when she got irate at Chloe for actually trying to do her job of defending Young rather than participate in what Wray obviously though should be a kangaroo court whose job it was to validate her forgone conclusion of Youngs guilt.
I also thought the ship on the planet looked similar in design to the Destiny. Maybe that is why Destiny brought them there?

Is my memory playing tricks on me but I remember that in one of the first episodes three or four people were left behind on a planet? At the very end of that episode we saw one of the two small shuttlecrafts attached to Destiny automatically desengage and leave without anyone noticing. I think that there is an automatic security procedure when anyone is left behind.

The thing that didn't make any sense in this episode is that no one ever wondered why a murderer would try to make the crime scene look exactly like a suicide, and then take the gun with them. Wouldn't a murderer leave the gun next to the dead guys hand or on the floor? How stupid would a killer have to be to take the gun with them, thus making it look like a murder?!

I thought it was one of the better ones.

Maybe though I'm hoping there's more to it than there might be. I was reading it completely the opposite to everyone else, as a real role reversal.

This is one of the situations where we see a real side to Young and a nasty side at that, he is the real bad guy here, manipulative from the start to the finish, sure he was framed, but every action apart from that shows an almost pathological disregard of others. It would be cool to have that progress, to have it so that after they've set everyone up as being a certain type of person in the viewers eyes for them to really be quite the opposite. For the abrasive and apparently bad guy (Rush) be the real hero, while the charming and apparently good guy (Young) becomes the real enemy within.

This may be the wrong place to post this questions because everyone seems to be focused on the wrong things here but did anyone else see a resemblance between the alien ship and the pod that detached itself from the destiny in one of the first four episodes? I may be imagining it but I think that their design looked very similar.
I don't think that Young's decision was that stupid. To be perefectly honest Rush has sure spoken a bigger game than he has brought. Most of the revelations (technology wise) have come after the fact when some kind of disaster was avoided by the ship doing its thing. After the fact Rush always says something like "I thought that might happen." but never shares that info during the crisis. In my opinion he has contributed very little. Rush did act brashly but I think that he has experiential evidence which tells him that they can survive without Rush.
I am excited to see what they plan for Rush, and for the crew. Personally I think Franklin will wake up and be ok and have knowledge that can help them.

Anyone else getting Wrath of Khan vibes off of Rush being stranded by the captain on a desert planet?

It's JUST a TV show, enjoy the drama, and their voyage of discovery, I love this almost as much as Battlestar...
as for the sex and drama, OF COURSE they are human beings marooned...remember you must suspend your disbelief, just like when watching NCIS....