Guys,

Let's try to put the debate to rest about whether this is Alterna-Peter or not. Unless the writers are intentionally, overtly misleading us (which would be lame, in my opinion), it's pretty well established at this point that Walter stole his son from the other side after his "real" son passed away. We saw his headstone, for God's sake, in the season finale.

This sets up the obvious emotional conflict when Peter does finally find out the truth, not to mention the growing possibility that the other Walter, seething with anger over the abduction, just as smart and NOT "burdened" by our Walter's mental afflictions, will turn out to be our big bad.

I told my wife... If walter accessed his long term memory to tell someone something then the short term memory is going to remember that... then the short term memory is going to store the info where ever new long term memories go. i know he doesn't remember a lot or correctlly.. but he knew the numbers in peters phone number... just not the correct order.

Some good questions about if the bell who crossed over has relationship with himself or bishop over there.. but i wondered if it is so bad there.... why stay?

I don't think Bell knew how Walter made the doorway. I bet Walter hid he was trying to go steal an alternate Peter.

For those of us wishing the series would focus on the alternate dimension plotline I would direct your attention to Broyles' statement to Olivia near the ep's end: "I suspect this is the way it's going to be, the more answers we get the more questions they lead to." I think this is the writers telling us they intend to dribble out clues instead of giving us "reveal" episodes, ugh.

I can't believe that NO ONE has caught on that the end of the show that it was NOT "Belly" that Walter saw but instead it was Dr. Paris! Watch the ending again and watch for these clues:

The nurse tells Dr. Paris that the patient is ready now. The Dr. asks if he is drug free (remember the valium?) and she says yes and that the electrodes are in place (so they can monitor Walter's brain waves while he's being questioned). When "Belly" appears to Walter, he appeals to Walter's fears by reassuring him that it will be ok and then goes RIGHT into telling him to remember about the door and thinking about how he created the door. Walter then closes his eyes and starts thinking and the scene then ends. That is practically confirmation that he was being manipulated into revealing his memories to Paris IMHO! I watched the scene a second time and it looked even more to me that he was being deceived and duped into giving up the info to the enemy.

That would certainly explain William Bell's sudden appearance and the odd conversation that Walter remembers having with him (as well and all the speculations that everyone here has posted). Tell me what you guys think, is it just me that sees this???

I'm thinking maybe the Peter on "our" side is still the original one. We learned that he was very sick as a child, maybe Walter saved him by sacrificing the alternative earth Peter, organ transplantats or something. And a.e. Walter being the evil genius behind everything makes sense for me, in a Fringe kind of way.
I hope they go for a 3rd season, otherwise they might have to rush quite a bit to answer all the questions and tie the lose ends up.
All that stuff with Olivia and Peter/dead Peter? and the Watcher guys and the overall danger from the other side and I'm hoping for some character development on Broyles and Astrid too. Seems quite a lot for just a half season left.

Maybe this side's Walter is the evil Walter. He did steal another's man son. Perhaps Bell/Paris lobotomized him (so to speak) to arrest his evil?

How does Bell exist on the other side? Isn't there a Bell there too? What's his relation there with other Walter?

This is what i got from the whole "door" thing:

As it stands, the only way to get to the other side, and back, is through a portal. such is the one we saw in the first season, and how olivia got thrown to the other side and back. however, they are dangerous, and temporary. usually only one person going through. lots of side effects afterwards, as we've seen.

what i think is different about what walter created is that it is a door, something stable. that you can use at will, with little to no possible side effects. this would come in handy when transferring universes a lot, or for transferring an army.


pretty much speculation, but it seems to be where they're heading.

Two things:

If Peter is the Peter from the other side then he was spared what is beginning to look like a really terrible situation there full of plagues and the like,which is also a somewhat obvious reason to invade our side.

When Walter had his whole brain he became rather sinister acting.Could it be that the full brained Walter on the other side is a really bad guy?

So why did William Bell get to keep the information about the doorway, but Walter didn't?

This show is great and starting to get even better. Unfortunately, pursuant to Fox's long-term, perennial business plan, this means they will cancel it any time now. This last episode was fantastic, which basically guarantees there will be no season 3 of Fringe.

On another note, I forget her name, but whatever happened to that young female FBI agent who appeared in the first episode of this season (she helped Peter when Fringe Division was closed down). The last we saw of her, she was reading a bible. I was under the impression that she'd be a recurring character but we have not seen or heard of her since. Or did she get killed and I somehow missed it?