After a few stops and starts, we finally managed to get Tom Papa, host of NBC's 'The Marriage Ref,' to join us on the podcast. He talks with Jason Hughes, Danny Gallagher and me about the new show, who his favorite couple has been so far, managing a panel with Larry David, Ricky Gervais and Madonna, and exactly what he thought of the Leno-Conan debacle that gave his show that Thursday at 10PM ET opening.

Tom joins us about 18 minutes into the podcast and stays with us for about 25 minutes. Before and after, Jason, Danny and I talk about:

• How March Madness messes with our DVRs and why networks can't send out live DVR updates,
• The new cast of 'Dancing with the Stars' and the importance of Pam Anderson's breasts this season,
• Two shows that are finally getting killed off: one good ('Scrubs') one not so good (''Til Death'). We also talk about what shows have been on the "Can't Kill 'Em" list in recent years.
• Picks of the week, and more.

Run time is 1:13:08.

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As always, the music at the beginning and end of the podcast is "Life" by Justin Trawick.