Ryan: the V people could have protested and said "if you stick that big bright red clicking countdown on the screen for the entirety of "Lost" we quit - we will have nothing to do with it." Their lack of balls makes them complicit in the annoying advertisement by default. But we both agree that they loved the idea to begin with. And of course they knew it was annoying. It's supposed to be annoying - that's how it gets your attention, so as to get you to watch the show. If they could paint big red V's all over the walls in your home, they wouldn't hesitate to do it. Annoying advertising is effective advertising. That's the problem, and that's why I keep trying to convince people to take a stand against it. Do what you can, however small it may be, to send the message that annoying advertising is NOT effective.

Unfortunately, for every 100 consumers who have advertisers pointing in their faces, flicking their ears, and spitting on their shirts while saying "USE OUR PRODUCT USE OUR PRODUCT USE OUR PRODUCT USE OUR PRODUCT!!!" 99 of the 100 will gladly comply and whip out their wallets. Only 1 of the 100 will get annoyed and tell the advertiser to screw off and never use their product.

Annoying advertising works for the same reason that spam works. A few stupid people and lonely elderly people (and stupid lonely elderly people) make it worth their while, even if 999,999 out of every million spam emails gets ignored. I have absolutely no doubt that last week's episode of "V" got higher ratings than it would have received without the annoying huge bright red "V" countdown timer during Lost. That annoying V countdown probably resulted in 100,000 extra viewers watching "V" - if not more. And it's facts like that that make me want to fucking kill myself :P

Ryan: I'm sure the creators of Lost were not involved, and were probably just as pissed as I was. But I'm sure the people involved with "V" were thrilled to have their show advertised on a highly-watched episode of Lost. Thrilled.

you missed Deadliest Catch

I won't be watching "V" due to the annoying huge red "V" countdown bug during last week's episode of "Lost." Gotta stand up against annoying, intrusive, unbearably violating advertisements.

If they do the same thing again this week during "Lost" some people at ABC will have to have their faces bashed in. Two wrongs make a right when it comes to violating one's personal space (my field of vision is my personal space). I reserve the right to employ deadly force in defense of my personal space. You stick an advertisement under my windshield wiper and we're gonna rumble. You stick a big, red, flashing countdown timer on my TV screen during a new episode of "Lost" and I'm gonna shove something cold, hard, pointey and sharp up your anal cavity.

Oh, and 'American Idol' got lost during my editing. It's back in now.

Well, if I knew you were going to all get upset about television listings.....

We're still working out the bugs. We want to keep the network listings on one page rather than having you jump to see what else is on primetime. So, give us some time to figure it out.

I'm fine by the new format BTW but if you consider reformatting it again based on the (negative) feedback you've received, I think separating them by categories/networks might work out best.

Main Networks
Cable Networks
Sports Networks
Late Night Shows

Of course everything should be alphabetized by network except when it comes to Late Night Shows which really should be organized by time if at all possible.

Just my 2c.

Please don't organize What's On Tonight this way. It's misleading and much too easy to miss noticing something you want to see.

Either leave it the way it used to be, which was much better and much easier to follow, or try this, with the program names in bold:

At 8:00 ET and PT, there are new episodes of:
'Dancing With the Stars' (ABC--the results edition), NCIS (CBS), '90210' (CW), 'The Biggest Loser' (NBC--2 hours long), 'NOVA' takes a look at the Milky Way's secrets (PBS), and 'Storm Stories' (The Weather Channel).

At 8:30 ET and PT, Connecticut and Stanford square off in the NCAA Women's Basketball final (ESPN).

At 9:00 ET and PT, there are new episodes of:
'NCIS: Los Angeles' (CBS), 'Lost" (ABC), and 'Survivors' (BBCA).

At 10:00 ET and PT, there are new episodes of :
'V' (ABC), 'The Good Wife' (CBS), 'Melrose Place' (CW), 'Parenthood' (NBC), 'Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (USA), 'The Michael Vick Project' (BET), 'Justified' (FX), 'Southland' (TNT), 'Millionaire Matchmaker' (BRAVO), and 'Chopped' (Food Network).

Note that I left out TLC: from your description, I can't tell when anything starts after 9 pm: "TLC has a new episode of '19 Kids and Counting,' followed by a repeat, then two new episodes of 'The Little Chocolatiers.'"

Or you could even have a chart, with times across the top and each channel on its own row. But this current method is no good.

The old format was better, but still flawed. Unfortunately, you're creating bigger flaws while not addressing the original ones.

The format used to be to list the shows by their network for that night.

Now you're listing them by network, but separating them by the apparent start time of new material per network...

Huh? That makes no sense.

Either do it by time or leave it by network. Doing it by time and network is just confusing.

Oh, and Kragragh, perhaps you should pay attention before calling people morons. The Good Wife is listed under the 8pm heading because all of CBS is listed there because their entire night is new... if only TGW had been new, CBS would've been listed under 10pm...

Again... that makes no sense.

ummm you just choose not to mention American Idol???? the biggest show on TV gets left out of Whats on tonight??? Dumb