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'Supernatural' Season 6, Episode 6 Recap

by Maureen Ryan, posted Oct 30th 2010 1:00PM
['Supernatural' - 'You Can't Handle the Truth']

Hey, people who don't watch 'Supernatural'! This is obviously a review of Friday's episode of that show, but I want you to be aware of one thing -- something that may lead you to watch the show someday. But even if you don't, know that 'Supernatural' has two of the finest lead actors on television.

OK, if you don't want to read about 'You Can't Handle the Truth,' see you later. But I just wanted the non-'Supernatural' fans who read this site to have that information.

As for my fellow 'Supernatural' fans, I'm betting you'll agree with me about two things: That Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki gave exceptional performances, and that the ending of the episode was shocking. It was meant to shock, there can be no doubt about that.

My responses to the ending, and to the episode as a whole, are pretty complicated, so I'll say in advance that I appreciate your patience if you'll bear with me as I go through my post-'Truth' thoughts.

As a whole, 'Truth' had some plotting problems, which I'll get to later. Generally speaking, it took a long time to get to the truth we were all waiting for: What is Sam? And we didn't find out, though, by process of elimination, we know he's not human and he's not Lucifer.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. What to make of Dean beating up his brother at the end of 'Truth'?

Just as our responses to that moment are probably complicated, I think Dean was experiencing several emotions and impulses at once. In those Veritas scenes, Jensen was unbelievably good at making you feel Dean's unbearable sadness -- not only did he decide that he was a lost cause, he found out his brother wasn't human and had been lying to him the whole time.

The life Dean had tried to lead with Lisa was over, and his initial joy at seeing Sam alive had been replaced by hurt and incomprehension over believing -- and then being told -- that Sam wasn't Sam. To Dean, it might have been better if Sam stayed in the cage rather than come back and put him through this emotional wringer. And then to have Sam admit that he knew he was off the entire time? It must have been the most painful betrayal possible.

Dean didn't want to kill Sam -- he didn't have the heart to. So he put down the blade, but he still wanted Sam out of commission so he could drag his brother to Bobby's house. His first instinct, as always, was to go to Bobby's and try to find some comfort there, even if Bobby might not have any answers.

My guess is he told himself he was punching Sam to just knock him out for transport purposes, but the rage and hurt Dean was feeling just took over. He went much further than he had intended, because he wasn't in control of his emotions. After all, he'd just told Veritas that he knew he was a killer, nothing more. Why not just give in to the violence that he'd been immersed in since he was a kid? Why bother fighting his darkest instincts? Especially when he may have been thinking: "How could I let my kid brother turn into me?"

Call that Response 1, which was the majority of my reaction to that final set of scenes. Overall, I thought they were good scenes, thanks in large part to Jensen and Jared's terrific performances, and those dark moments may have set the stage for some interesting developments.

Response 2 -- let's call it about 30 percent of my overall reaction -- contains some questions and perhaps a few fears about where the show is taking Dean (both brothers, in fact). The show seems to be making some parallels to Season 1 or overall 'Supernatural' paradigms, in which Dean is (or was) allegedly the more remorseless, unemotional hunter. As Dean said in 'Truth,' now Sam is the guy that Dean allegedly was back in the day -- cold, ruthless, unconcerned about the human cost of what they do.

Yet I don't think that Dean ever truly was that guy. I hope both the show and Dean remember that.

Part of the reason the show's been interesting to me is because of the complexity they gave this supposedly cool, rational, unaffected hunter. Dean was forced into that role by his family duties, but over the past six seasons, they've shown that fulfilling that role has cost him a lot, and being the gruff, responsible leader was not necessarily something he ever wanted.

Of course he had feelings -- why else would he have cared so much about his relationship with Sam? Would the Dean of Season 1 have ever smirked the way Sam did while questioning a dead girl's sister or while watching his own brother being turned? No. Dean could be thoughtless and brusque, among other things, but there was always a guy in there who was trying his best under very difficult circumstances.

Maybe one of the goals for the season is for Dean to realize that he never was that unemotional, remorseless guy. I hope so. Because I'd really be concerned if the past six season of character development and exploration were left by the side of the road like a moldy burger.

OK, maybe I'm overstating the case there, but the trajectory of the brothers from youth to manhood has been one of the most interesting things about 'Supernatural.' The brothers have so much individual and dual history. I'll grant that the show hasn't always been consistent about how it showed or developed their growth or relationship, but they've learned how to treat each other as adults. They've learned how to let each other make their own choices. Dean even attempted to lead a life outside of hunting and establish emotional bonds outside that narrow, single-minded world.

Of course, all of that made it that much more painful when Dean said, "I ain't a father. I'm a killer and there's no changing that. I know that now."

The tragedy of the scene is that he doesn't even know how far he's come. For Dean to give up on himself that completely -- so completely that he'd try to obliterate his brother's face -- that was hard. And I don't know if I entirely buy that Dean sped to that place of low self-esteeem that quickly. Sure, it was hard to learn that Sam came back inhuman. Does that mean Dean just gives up on himself?

Again, maybe the idea for the season is for the brothers to preserve or re-discover the maturity they'd gained over the past several years, and even build on that. I really hope so, and I hope that 'Supernatural' is not in the process of hitting the reset button. It's too early to say whether that's the case, and my inclination is to give the writers the benefit of the doubt. They know a lot of us have stuck with the show to see these issues of maturity and interdependence treated in thoughtful and intelligent ways, and given how emotionally ambitious the season is, we have reason to believe that they're going to give us some compelling food for thought in the next six months. Still, these are just some ideas I thought worth bringing up.

As for Sam, I wonder about the implications of the whole "I don't know what happened to me or what I am" thread. As I've said before, if he has no agency and is just a puppet on someone else's string, then how can we get invested in what he's going through as an individual or in his relationship with Dean? Is Different!Sam still the Sam we used to care about? I hope so. We need to find out what he is soon so that we know whether to care about him or not, not to put it too plainly. But if we end up with only vague clues about who or what Sam is, it'll be that much more difficult to care about where the character goes from here.

All in all, as I said, I was more intrigued than concerned by what transpired at the end of 'Truth.' I do like the idea of the brothers being together, yet emotionally apart -- they never did separate for long in season 5 but to see them psychologically diverge and yet work through their complicated issues while sharing the Impala has a lot of potential, if it's handled right.

I just fully recognize that this is a dark season, and though I think it has potential, I get why some fans might be a little wigged by the melancholy tone. I like me some dark and twisty, and I quite like bittersweet noir themes, but let's face it, the ending of 'Truth' was about as dark as things get for this show.

Still, despite its title, we didn't get a ton of truth about what's going on, and we can't fully judge how all these things are going to work until we're more clear on what's going on with each brother (especially Sam). But I'm certainly willing to see where all this goes. We're still in the set-up phase of the season, and while season 6 doesn't have the apocalyptic ambition of season 5, as I said, it appears to be emotionally ambitious. Thus the powers that be are really going to have to bring their A game to the character development to pull this off.

Having said all that, I'm not pleased that this was the third episode of the season to have distracting structural issues (the others were 'The Third Man' and 'Live Free or Twihard'). I'm seeing some new names pop up on the writing credits this year, and I'm not sure if that's the issue -- new writers not having a great feel for what makes a 'Supernatural' episode work, plot-wise. But I hope they get this problem in hand soon. The best 'Supernatural' episodes have well-crafted or at least sturdy plots that allow us to explore the characters, their development and their relationships. 'Truth' wasn't a bad episode per se, but the plot ended up detracting from the overall momentum of the hour.

'Truth' trundled along in a relatively decent way until it unleashed a huge groaner of an implausibility. Every so often, 'Supernatural' does this -- it spends too much time establishing who the villain of the week is and then too little time on that character and the truths that are elicited when he or she shows up. So there was a truth-inducing trinket out there, the show wrung some comic and dramatic beats from that, and then -- wait, it's not Gabriel's trumpet. The goddess Veritas has been summoned. OK then.

And the boys figure out she's the local news anchor how? Oh, they just decide that anyone who wants to bring truth to the masses must be a journalist, and, oh, by the way, she must be a female news anchor. Whaaa? How'd they make that leap? That was just not credible to me. From the moment the duo decided it was the news anchor to the moment they actually encountered her in her swanky lair, I timed it -- that was about five wasted minutes. Five minutes in which we could have had more Truth Time with Sam and Dean. Argh! The final few scenes were so interesting that I wanted much more of that. Am I alone on that?

Let's just move on, because the not-awesome plot gives me a migraine. I want to ask your thoughts on the Lisa development. If it's true that the show has just dropped the Ben and Lisa story line for good, that'll be disappointing. I now feel that Dean's drop-in on Ben and Lisa last week -- a scene that was inartfully shoved into the middle of 'Twihard' -- was mainly there to set up their breakup this week.

Why did Dean answer the phone when Lisa called? He could have just ignored the call, given that he knew that he'd probably get some uncomfortable truths. Was it Dean's old "I don't deserve happiness" instinct kicking in? He had to know where that conversation was likely to go. Why not tell Lisa exactly why he had been acting so odd? She might have had all the more reason to break up with him, but he had nothing to lose at that point. She deserved the truth as well. It was disappointing that, because the show wanted Dean broken up with Lisa, he didn't just tell her why he had acted so oddly.

And overall, I'm just a little sad and surprised that the show kicked Lisa to the curb so early in the season. In the few flashes we saw of her, she was on her way to becoming more than a mere plot device. She was independent and thoughtful and strong, and now the show has lost another female character (argh!). I don't quite know if I buy that Dean fell into a self-pity spiral and thought he didn't deserve her and Ben, though I do buy that he was in a lot emotional turmoil at that moment. Maybe we're not done with Lisa, and in the hopes that that's the case, I'll reserve judgment on where they've left that. For now.

I was pretty hard on 'Twihard' last week, maybe harsher than I intended to be (hey, that's going around, huh?). And it's not that I hated 'Truth.' Like 'Twihard,' it wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible, it was somewhere in the middle.

The big thing 'Truth' did right was giving Jared and Jensen some opportunities for terrific acting. Mechanically speaking, the episode could have been better than it was, but at least it provided some memorable emotional moments.

As we've all noted, Jared has shown extreme skill in the way that he's played Different!Sam this season. He certainly seems like our Sam much of the time, but in tiny ways, he's able to communicate that he's not really Sam. Witness the moment in 'Truth' in which he walks away from Dean with the spell box containing the cat head. He wasn't smirking, exactly, but there was a hardness about him; he knew he'd just played his brother, and he didn't care. The way Jared has played Dean's ruthlessness -- and his surprise at how ruthless he can be -- has been nothing short of perfect.

As I've wondered before, what if season 6 Sam doesn't have a soul? Could he be caught up in the soul-stealing process that the angels appear to be so concerned about? It's a theory. I don't think Sam is an angel, or Castiel would have figured that out by now, although clearly he has other things on his plate at the moment.

What's clear is that the reliable 'Supernatural' theme of fathers and sons is getting a workout this season. Sam has been around Grandpa Samuel, who is much less emotional than anyone in the Winchester clan. Dean has tried to be a father to Ben, which has made him vulnerable in ways he wasn't before.

And by the end of 'Truth,' both sons may be thinking that they've just become John Winchester clones. Of course, John wasn't an unfeeling man -- he tried to protect his sons and give them the tools that would help them survive. Dean's grief may arise from the fact that he wasn't able to protect his family the way John was -- Sam has been turned into something inhuman on Dean's watch. Given how hard he tried to protect Sam, that must be the worst possible turn of events, perhaps even worse than Sam dying or being thrown in the cage. Because Sam's inhumanness means that Dean failed as a brother and as a son.

Jensen was extraordinary at showing us the range of Dean's emotions -- disgust at having to pretend nothing was wrong, rage at what his brother had become, pain at realizing that he'd lost everything and was only good at one thing -- killing. Of course his rage face was terrifying, but the overwhelming emotion Dean gave off in those final scenes was sadness. Sam's plight was confusing and worthy of compassion, but Dean's face was just heartbreaking.

A few more notes:

• This week's restaurant, Big Gerson's (which has been spotted before on the show) was located in Calumet City, Illinois. I spent much of my youth working at restaurants and fast-food places in Cal City, which was the next town over from mine. Though I did want to shoot myself once or twice while serving burgers there, I never did, thank goodness.

• Way too many extreme close-ups this week. This show sure has a pretty cast, but I'm not a fan of that many ECUs.

• The Bobby pedicure humor was a much-needed light moment in the episode. Even over the phone, Jensen and Jim Beaver have great timing.

• I must confess I was expecting Castiel to have more than one scene. It was a bit odd that he didn't come back -- that was all the more frustrating, given that there was a fair amount of wasted screen time in 'Truth.' Some quality Cas time soon would be nice. I'd like to get more of an idea of the war that's going on in Heaven.

• As for Veritas, I didn't quite get this: If she knew that Sam wasn't human, why was she surprised that he could lie? She acted offhand about Sam's non-humanness ("You didn't know that?"), yet wigged out that he was able to lie to her. Not a big deal but the best episodes have antagonists that are a little better thought-out and integrated than Veritas was.

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overcastmorning

I hated this episode. I mean, sure, the acting was great, as you said, and some of the plot revelations were shockingly wonderful/bitter.

But, seriously? Everything was entirely predictably. Maybe because the "it's the news anchor!" revelation had far too much foreshodowing-- it was completely obvious from the get-go. Or maybe I just spent the entire episode having "Fallen Idols" deja vu. Although it was great in moving forward the overarching storyline, the monster-of-the-week battle had absolutely NO original ideas. It seems like Supernatural has just started recycleing plot elements from the previous seasons.

Sorry I'm late, and don't have time to read all the previous comments.

November 16 2010 at 9:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Amber

I must add my own thoughts. Mo thank you so much for your review.

Now, for me Lisa and Ben have provided I suppose a new or different element to the show for me. Mostly because it was Dean trying to be something other than a hunter. What I am saying is that it's intriguing to watch Dean go back to hunting and still try to have a family of sorts. While I am not just dying to see Lisa and Ben again I would like to see them again this season. It's time I moved on to another part of the episode before I start talking in complete circles.

Sam was the catalyst that got Dean back to hunting. I feel that Dean wouldn't have gotten back into it so intensely as he has and will continue to do without Sam. I mean that while I think Dean would have still some hunting on his own he would have always been anchored to Lisa and Ben. Sam coming back ended up throwing him back into it completely. Don't get me wrong I know that hunting runs through Dean's veins which is why without Sam he would still hunt just not to the same extent. I don't know if that makes sense. I certainly hope so.

Dean hitting Sam as much as he did in the end was what it was. It didn't upset me. It was coming. Now, yes, Sam is without a soul so it seems but he made his choices to lie to Dean. I am sure without a soul they were easy choices to make too. There's no emotional consideration on his part. I most certainly hope that Sammy will be getting his soul back at some point possibly soon.

I am looking forward to this weeks coming episode.

November 03 2010 at 6:13 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
saboja

My two cents about the news anchor thing - Dean's sudden decision that it was all her did feel abrupt. But at that point I *was* waiting for her to be explained. Because she seemed to be on every TV in town. And from what I could tell (I haven't re-watched) she was not only the anchor in the studio, she was also every field reporter that the anchor cut to. A one-woman news team. It was very odd, but did deserve more explanation than it got.

November 03 2010 at 3:42 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Chrissy

I agree with some of the troubles you brought up, particularly some of the connections the boys made that were just a bit too convenient. I figured out it was the newswoman when Dean was in the bar, but I have the benefit of the show's direction - Dean does not. Also, did she just happen to be working as a news reporter in Calumet City when the first woman just happened to summon her? Or did she fall into the job quite recently (upon being summoned?) If so, it would have been nice if that fact was part of Dean and Sam's investigation.

That said, I enjoyed the episode quite a bit. I think I understand why Dean answered the phone, although I was yelling at the TV for him not to. Relationships are obviously hard (News at 11!), but they work a little better when the hard is evenly distributed. She works too much, he's emotionally unavailable. He's too close to his family, his boyfriend spends too much money. He doesn't want to have kids, she nags him about his job. You can get through a lot, but it's hard when you feel sure that you are the problem. As far as we've seen, Lisa is pretty awesome. Understanding, resilient, loving, self-supporting, with a pretty cool son. Dean is standoffish, dangerous, and, oh, yeah, he shows up at her house and pushes her and her son around. All the problems in their relationship (seem to) stem from him. For Dean, a truly decent man, that's got to be very hard. I think he wanted to give her the chance to end it, if that's the way it was going to go. He wanted her to not have to be strong, if her real feelings were going in that direction.

That doesn't mean I liked that development, but I thought it was earned. I definitely will be disappointed if that's the end of that, though; however, her place in the story is hard to parse. In a different show she would be the one who would remind Dean that he's not the guy he thinks he is, but it feels like that has to come from Sam, in some way, for it to mean anything (since she's really only known him for a short time).

Very optimistic about this season - while it hasn't been perfect, I feel like they are doing some neat things with some tough issues and I can't wait to see where it goes. Also, Jim Beaver is the man. So, so funny (and many other things, when called upon). Just love Bobby and everything he brings to the show.

November 02 2010 at 11:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dee

Reading the comments, I have to admit my surprise at how many here are so gung ho to see the Dean & Lisa show. While I agree that they wrote her character into the show way better than I thought they would, I can't say I'm unhappy to see her gone.

I too feel that Dean is way too hard on himself, and his low self-esteem is unwarranted. He's an extremely loyal, loving, responsible and caring person, but he's no family-man - at least not in the traditional house, wife, kid and picket fence kind of way.

Many of you seem to forget that while enjoying the life he had with Lisa and Ben, Dean was also very clearly out of his element. He was going through the motions, yes, but he was having a hell of a time keeping his inner "hunter" at bay. Being a hunter isn't just what he does, but a large part of who he is ... something Lisa understood and tried to support, to her detriment. Living with Dean wasn't easy for Lisa and Ben, and they tolerated an awful lot from him. Poor Ben in particular didn't seem like he was having a lot of fun having a paranoid Dean around, and while Lisa tried her hardest to be patient, even she was starting to grow wary of his behavior.

Some people blame soulless Sam for pulling Dean back into hunting, but don't forget that Sam's reappearance was more the result of the danger that Dean was in from the Djinn, than simply a desire to hunt with his brother again (the recent revelation about Sam being without a soul, and unable to "feel" supports this). So for me, Dean's choice to hunt again, was his own, and all that has happened since then just furthers my argument that Dean and Lisa were always doomed. Dean's life, whether Sam is a part of it or not, will always be a dangerous one. And if Lisa is half the mother that the show has depicted her to be, then she knows that what is most important is the safety of her child! As much as she wants to support and care of Dean, he really is way too messed up and dangerous for her to be with.

It's sad that Dean had to lose them. He really does have a good heart, and if he lived a different kind of life it might have worked. But as long as he remains a hunter, Sam will remain his closest family tie.

November 01 2010 at 10:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lisa H.

I really liked this episode and am excited to see how all of this plays out.
I think Castiel my know more than he is telling Dean since he said he has had to do "regretable things". Sam's soul or theft of it may have to do with Cass and his war in heaven.

November 01 2010 at 9:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
sweetondean

To some extent I agree that the pacing of this episode seemed off with how the MOTW storyline was weaved into the main plot. But seeing as the Goddess of Truth was simply a tool to show the complete destruction of everything that Dean held dear, and to take him to a place of despondence that could only lead to one thing, I was OK with it. Sam's revelation was interesting because if he can't feel anything he must only be approaching what is happening to him logically. I know some people, including me, have questioned why he wouldn't have spilled that information to Dean earlier, but if you can't feel, why would you bother, because it wouldn't be of a real concern, just a curiosity. Having said that, he knows intellectually that something is wrong and a plea for help is appropriate. But does he really want it, because wouldn't that involve feelings? It's a conundrum! It's a very hard task to convey being totally emotionless, even the Angels who are supposed to not feel emotion got mad at the Winchesters and obviously felt remorse etc. It's a tricky one. I'm glad it's out in the open so that now our journey can be about finding that dang soul and popping it back into Sam! I have a feeling it's going to climax with the mid-season cliffhanger or the Appointment In Samarra episode, which may be one of the same...but that is just my overly active analysis! Whatever, I hope the first half of the season is about sorting out Sam's predicament and the 2nd half is about the brothers working together to solve the Alpha problem. We need some good bro time. We deserve it. How did I feel about the thumping Dean gave Sam? To be honest I was OK with it. Not because I am hating on Sam, far from it, I feel a lot of sorry for him and what he has been dealing with, but I think this was just the final straw for Dean and it led to this outpouring of frustration, sorrow and desperation. He was pushed to the brink and the one thing in his life that he felt he could rely on, that one person had lied and betrayed him to such a degree that it had stripped him of everything. What should have been a joyous thing, having Sam back, turned into a nightmare. I don't think the writers were harking back to past Dean with his outpouring about being a killer, I think it was a true representation of how Dean feels about himself. Just under the surface at all times lives this self loathing, this lack of self worth. To us, it's baffling, he has such value as a man, as a brother, as a father, as a friend and as a partner. His loyality alone is something he should be proud of. But after everything with Sam, with Lisa, with destiny and all the other crap he's had to deal with and with a truth curse hanging over him, that is what came out, those old wounds reopened. It was so damn sad. Should he have hit Sam so much? Probably not, but everything with these boys is heightened, and though I don't condone it and hated watching it, I totally get it. A note about the acting. As everyone has commented here, Jensen and Jared really are doing a bang up job with the emotional depth, or lack there of that they have to convey this season. Their acting has gone from strength to strength. Add to the mix Jim Beaver, Misha Collins and Mark Sheppard and you really have some of the best performances on TV. Why this show is yet to be recognised on this level is beyond me, but then part of me is happy about that because I like that it's our little secret that we can all pontificate about and it's not some massive overly pimped smash hit. I love this show to pieces, it just gets better and better. Bring on the next episode please!

November 01 2010 at 8:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lune Rouge



In my opinion the extreme close ups in Supernatural (and in general) are a very good thing. It's the best way to really see the expression on a face. They do it a lot in this show, since the first season and these extreme close ups are a sort of signature in Supernatural. But maybe when you have a very very big screen it can be a little bit too impressive. I watch Supernatural on my mobile phone that's why extreme close ups are very important for me ! (just kidding for the mobile :-))

Mo, you said about Lisa : "She was independent and thoughtful and strong, and now the show has lost another female character (argh!)".

I agree with you on this point, I also like the interaction between Dean and Lisa. She is the perfect woman for him. It would be very sad if she have to disappear too. (How many excellent characters have we lost so far?!).

I really hope that we will have some hilarious episodes too in this season. Like : "Changing Channels", "Sam, Interrupted", "Monster Movie", "Yellow Fever"...etc

(Sorry for my mistakes, English is not my first language)

November 01 2010 at 5:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nitelady33-supernatural

I thought the boys did well figuring out it was the journalist. Didn't Dean say something about Veritas wanting to be adored by the masses and was an attention whore & they observed how much attention that journalist was seeking. The dog barking and her look when her eyes were like cats gave her away.

More truth time with Sam and Dean yup with you there. Could have been so much more and more revealing.

Didn't like the phone call from Lisa. Why didn't Dean say more to her than just "Hey Lis". Damn you Dean Tell her the truth she can handle the truth!.
I was yelling "Dean don't answer that! You really don't want to talk to Lisa when she has to tell you the truth." That's exactly what I was afraid of after Dean attached Ben. Again Dean why oh why didn't you tell Lisa the truth after she asked you to explain what happened. She might have understood if she knew he had been turned into a vamp and was fighting not to give in to his urge to feed!
As it was, he left her very little choice but to tell him he couldn't be in their lives anymore. All the things she told him were certainly true. He has buried so much so deep down inside that it interferes with any relationships he has. I felt Dean's devastation, hopelessness and yes shattered. Makes that glass shattering of this season's opening pertinent for the for whole season's theme, everything is shattered! Jensen's expressions got to me. He is so good at showing whatever with just simple expressions, especially Dean' angst.

You said "Sam's inhumanness means that Dean failed as a brother and as a son." You nailed it, that just plain hurts to see my guy have so much pain and sadness.

Ha! Knew this wouldn't be short!
BTW What does ECU stand for?

November 01 2010 at 2:41 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Sdianems

ECU= Extreme Close Up(s)

November 01 2010 at 3:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nitelady33-supernatural

Oh forgot Mo what does ECU stand for? Thanks

November 01 2010 at 2:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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