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Sorry, Conan... I'm Sticking With Stewart and Colbert

by Joel Keller, posted Nov 10th 2010 6:00PM
Conan O'Brien, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart
Let me preface this post by saying that, as most readers of this blog know, I've been an unabashed Conan supporter for years. I went to see him on tour, and was excited as hell to see him come back to TV on TBS. And, I'm pretty much in agreement with my esteemed colleague Mo Ryan: Monday's premiere of 'Conan' was way too conventional, but last night's Hanks-aided episode was a lot better.

But, I've got to be honest: once the newness of Conan being on at 11 wears off, chances are that my show of choice at that time is going to be the same as it has been for at least the last eight years: I'll be watching 'The Daily Show.'

Why? Well, there are a couple of reasons, but the main one can be summed up in one word: relevancy.

One of the things I've gotten used to over my time watching 'TDS' -- and since 2005, it's 11:30 cousin 'The Colbert Report' -- was eagerly anticipating how Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and their writing staffs were going to handle the big event in the news from that day. Did the president give an address? How did the news channels handle a big event? Who said something stupid on a talk show? What did Glenn Beck say today?

Both shows have done such a credible and consistent job squeezing big laughs out of sometimes tough circumstances, I've been so conditioned to expect to hear their take on a big story, that I get bitterly disappointed when they're off when a big story breaks.

As much as I love Conan's wacky sense of humor, and hope he does more pre-taped bits like the one he did last night with TBS's standards and practices guy, he was never great with current-events-related humor, whether it was in his monologue or in a pre-taped bit. That's just not what he's about. So, when I was watching 'Conan' over the last two nights, I could feel a sense of anxiety that I was really missing something great on 'TDS.'

Another reason why 'TDS' and 'Colbert' will likely hold my attention more than 'Conan' will is because both shows emphasize comedy over everything else. Unless Jon Stewart is interviewing a bigwig or a someone who is bound to spark debate, like Texas governor Rick Perry, the first two acts of the show are all comedy. And even the interviews tend to go in weird directions, especially when Jon's talking to a celebrity plugging a movie.

Last night, for instance, Jon and Harrison Ford talked mostly about McRibs and Happy Meals, with Jon admitting that he didn't even see Ford's new movie, 'Morning Glory.' It breathed some life into the curmudgeonly Ford, who's usually such a dead-dull interview that you want to stick a fork in your hand while watching, just to prove you're still awake.

'Colbert,' of course, is all comedy, including the interview segment. Stephen Colbert plays his character all the way through each episode, and seeing the often flustered interview subjects try to roll with the punches as Colbert "nails" them is more entertaining than the questions and answers themselves.

The first two episodes of 'Conan' reinforced what we already knew about him: unless he has people on like Hanks and Jack McBrayer, people he can riff with and who are up for anything, he's about as uncomfortable an interviewer as there is on late-night TV. Why would I want to watch Lea Michele talk about being in a singing contest at 8 when I can see Colbert do fun stuff like this?


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Sure, I could DVR 'TDS' and 'Colbert,' watch them online, or watch them in reruns the following day. I do those things when I miss the shows for one reason or another (ok, when I fall asleep before 11... I'm an old fart). But I can do the same thing with 'Conan.' And I'm pretty sure I won't feel I'm missing out on anything if I watch 'Conan' the next morning. Just a hunch.

Which show are you going to watch at 11? Or do you not watch these shows on that old-fashioned thing called a TV?

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Michael

A big rating on monday was expected. A drop in ratings after that was even more expected. He now has a flat rating of around 2.7 as of the end of this week. This is great news and im sick of people comparing the ratings to his premiere show... Understand that most tv shows/series (especially on cable) start out like this. Conan is a great, funny man and has a target audience. Stick to TDS and TCR all you like but I for one dont find political humour that amusing. Secondly, Conan is honest and watching his show this week he seemed alot more.. free than when he was on NBC and I think many would prefer an honest tv show host that's bound to make little yet funny mistakes live on the air than a freaking robot whose prohibited from spreading his wings. This is why 'Conan' is different and why his humour stands out from the others.

November 13 2010 at 7:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rebecca

I like Conan. :D

November 10 2010 at 10:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joyce N.

Popwatch is reporting that Conan's ratings for the second show are in. 2.8 vs 4.2 on Monday. They say he needs to lay off the NBC jokes because they're getting old. That's a drop of about a third. Any of this sound familiar?

November 10 2010 at 10:10 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
AJ MacReady

That's all I was wondering. At the moment, I'm watching Coco and DVRing TDS and TCR. . .but that will probably change in a few weeks. But the fact remains that I'm watching them both. I figure you can do the same too, assuming you're a fan. Watch Stewart and Colbert when they come on, watch Conan later. Not a problem.

It's kinda unfair that the TV gods make us choose between these three (they made the strike worth watching with their crossover). But in this age, we all win. I don't really care who watches what when. I just hope that people still watch Conan. He's still worthwhile. He always will be.

Yeah, Stewart and Colbert are the shit. No surprise. But Conan kicks ass all over everybody else in the late night arena (in terms of the typical talk show).

November 10 2010 at 9:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Troy

As a huge fan of all three comics, this really is a difficult choice.

Fortunately, as mentioned, thank the gods for DVRs and next-day streaming episodes.

Plus all three shows air twice each night and Daily Show and Colbert air three times the next day. So it's not a big deal.

November 10 2010 at 9:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jesse

I watched the first 2 episodes of Conan and I have to say I'm kind of sad. Is he funny? Sure. But it feels far to famliar. I get why he had to conform to Tonight Show for the sake of tradition but now he has a show where he can do whatever he wants, this is his chance to shake up the formula a bit, he can make it part variety show, focus more on sketches, etc and instead if feels like The Tonight Show 2.0 which is somewhat disappointing. Even the music the band plays at the end of the show is exactly the same as it has been for the last 20 years. In a way George Lopez's show is more rewarding because at least he doesn't have the desk.

November 10 2010 at 8:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Paul

I love them all so much, I could never choose.

Luckily, my life is easily managed with my PVR, and unless there are 3 things on at the same time that I want to watch (where I have to organize things with time-shifting), I just have to come home at the end of the night and start catching up on the night's television in whatever order I feel like at the time.

Time slots are only relevant in that I want the shows I really like to be on as early as possible so I can watch them as soon as possible. That's it.

November 10 2010 at 7:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Joel Keller

Actually, if Conan is smart, he'll really push the online component of his show hard, much like Jimmy Fallon does. I'm more inclined to watch selected Conan bits the next day while I'm working than to catch up with old episodes of the show in a DVR queue. Late night shows get moldy very quickly.

November 10 2010 at 9:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tom Fandre

I'll stick with my Conan, Colbert and Stewart bore me with the politic side of things. I have seen them be very funny on occasion but personally I hate everything political and could really never get into their shows.

November 10 2010 at 6:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
rocktar

DVR's are awesome.

November 10 2010 at 6:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Zamir

and you can watch their shows are up on their thedailyshow.com and colbertnation.com so no "Sophie's Choice" for me thankfully and i doubt their shows will go one break at the same time, and Stewart and Colbert usually take long breaks when they do take them.

November 10 2010 at 6:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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