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'Game of Thrones' Season 1, Episode 2 Recap

by Maureen Ryan, posted Apr 24th 2011 10:00PM
['Game of Thrones' - 'The Kingsroad']

In its second episode, 'Game of Thrones' is still introducing us to its world and the people in it, and it's still setting up the conflicts to come.

That may account for the rather stilted nature of 'The Kingsroad,' which had a couple of effective moments but, in some ways, lacked an emotional spark.

'The Kingsroad' was a competent retelling the relevant set of events from the book, but it was somehow less exciting and less impressive than the previous episode (which, to be fair, got to introduce a whole new world, so it was bound to have a bit more intrinsic appeal).

In this episode, the ways in which novels can be superior to television became apparent here, to me, anyway.

Part of the reason people love the 'GoT' book series so fiercely is because readers get to know the characters in them incredibly well.

Hundreds of pages are spent on their thoughts, dreams, desires and actions, and it's impossible to not come to care about many of them, even the ones that aren't that nice. Martin uses a narrative conceit in the novels that allows him to drill deeply into various characters' psyches -- each chapter is told from the perspective of one character (in 'A Game of Thrones,' the narrative perspective revolves among eight characters).

This television show has 10 hours to get through a lot of story (my paperback version of 'A Game of Thrones' runs to 807 pages), and realistically, it can't stop and spend an hour -- or even 30 minutes -- on one character. Despite the welcome news that HBO has ordered a second season of the show, the long-term success of 'Thrones' will depend on whether how deeply it makes us care about these characters' hopes, goals and fears. It's going to have to be very creative if it's going to build the emotional bonds between the audience and the characters as deeply as the books did.

One way to do that is to invent scenes like the one between Cersei and Catelyn, which I thought was one of the best moments in the episode. Cersei isn't a very nice person, and she certainly doesn't hope that Bran lives. So she's a hypocrite and a liar, at the very least.

But she's also capable of sincerity, and the only people she loves in an uncomplicated way are her kids. So to have her talk, in a truthful and heart-rending way, about the death of her little black-haired baby was quite moving.

More importantly, it made me not hate her. It made me realize a few things about Cersei: She and Robert once may have loved each other, or at least had affection for each other; she loved that baby and it broke her heart to have his body taken out of her arms; and even if she's playing games most of the time, she's certainly capable of feeling honest emotions.

"Such a little thing, a bird without wings." The writing there was especially excellent; it took flight, to extend Cersei's metaphor, whereas in some other instances, the dialogue has a functional, sort of plodding quality to it.

Now, we didn't get to see her spend any time interacting with her kids here, and we learned early on in the hour that Joffrey is unredeemably spoiled and awful, so she clearly did a terrible job of raising him to be a man (though she may have done a fine job to raise him to be a Lannister -- Joffrey's got the family gift for cruelty and self-serving manipulation). It would have been nice to see that devotion to her kids demonstrated for us before she called for Sansa's direwolf to be executed, but at least we got the scene in Bran's room, the one that told us that Cersei's not nice but she's not necessarily a total monster.

I hope the show does more of this. It'll need to. As I said in my review of the show, I'm not saying the writers necessarily need to shy away from Martin's text and invent a ton of scenes that weren't in it. I'm saying that, whether we've read the books or not, the show needs to come up with effective methods of conveying the kind of information we need in order to establish connections with these people and their dilemmas.

Whether it was due to pacing, editing or just not knowing the characters that well, the river scene didn't have as much impact as I would have liked, but Sean Bean did exemplary work in the confrontation with King Robert and Queen Cersei (his delivery of the line, "The wolf is of the North. She deserves better than a butcher" was excellent). There was also nice ferocity from Maisie Williams as Arya. Whatever objections I have to this show, they usually drop away whenever Arya or Ned are on the screen.

The other moment that really connected for me was Ned's execution of Lady, Sansa's direwolf. Great acting can do a lot to convey a large amount of information, and Sean Bean did that here. In a wordless scene, you saw gut-churning unhappiness on Ned's face -- unhappiness that had many causes.

It wasn't just that he had to kill the dog, but that he'd given his life to a man who couldn't even dispense true justice to Ned's own children. That man was Ned's former best friend, and he was now under the thumb of an unpleasant and cunning wife. What on earth did Ned Stark get himself into? All of those thoughts and emotions flashed across Ned's face, but not in an overly emotional way. Still, Bean made us feel the dread, the fear, the disappointment in Ned's unenviable situation. On top of all that, he simply hated having to kill Sansa's dog, a noble, obedient animal who'd done nothing wrong. (The fact that the direwolf is the sigil of House Stark was surely not lost on him.)

Speaking of performances, I'm having real trouble connecting with Peter Dinklage's Tyrion. It's early days yet, so I may yet come to appreciate what he's doing in the role, but given how excited when Dinklage was cast as Tyrion, well, so far my expectations have not been met. I have to be honest: His scenes are falling mostly flat for me. I find his elaborate accent off-putting; as I wrote last week, there's something not quite right about it.

This could be the actor's choice to give Tyrion and his voice a performative, declamatory quality, or it could be that he's simply trying too hard to emulate a "proper" English accent. Either way, his locution draws attention to itself in a way that distances me from the character.

So while the scenes with Joffrey and Jon Snow were informative about each of those characters -- Kit Harington's facial expression as the truth about Jon's future sank in were perfectly calibrated -- I'm not really invested in Tyrion yet. I want to be, truly I do, so I hope that'll change.

As is the case with any critique I make at this point, I'm willing to be proven wrong. What I'm really hoping is that, as the show moves forward, it establishes not just a rhythm and momentum but its own animating spark. As I said, much of this episode, despite the mostly strong performances and good visuals, felt like a competent but unexceptional depiction of a sequence of events that occurred in the book. It was dutiful, but, aside from a couple of scenes, not inspired.

A few more notes and random observations:

• Nikolaj Coster-Waldau has a great facility with Jaime's smarmy charm -- you can tell Jon Snow isn't sure if Jaime's insulting him or complimenting him (and that's exactly the reaction that Jaime wants -- his central skill is keeping people off balance about his motivations and agenda). Jaime gives us many reasons to dislike him, but there's something about the man that is inescapable, some kind of dark charisma. Coster-Waldau captures that well.

• Because I want to like Catelyn, it's difficult to see her being cold to Jon Snow. I understand the intellectual reasons why she'd be hesitant to embrace her husband's bastard, but Michelle Fairley brings such earthy kindness and strength to the role that you'd tend to assume that Catelyn would be more fair about the awkward situation and blame her husband for his transgression, not blame the child. Still, it's understandable that she'd be furious that her own offspring lingered near death while Ned's bastard lived.

• Speaking of the scene in Bran's room, I understand that some fans were upset that they cut a line that Catelyn says to Jon in the book, something along the lines of "It should have been you." I agree with the producers' decision to cut that line. It's one thing to read it on the page, when we have much more context for Jon and Catelyn's difficult relationship. To see it on the screen, when we've just met both of them -- it was too soon for that. Just my two cents.

• Oy vey, lots of shots of the dragon eggs. OK, we get it, the dragon eggs are important.

• I enjoyed the Ned-Robert scene, which demonstrated Mark Addy's nimble ability to shift between bawdy mode and serious mode.

• Does this mean I'm likely to take the black? Once again, a shot of the Wall may have been my favorite moment of the episode. Terrific image. All hail the FX team.

• Any fans of 'The Wire' out there? If so, you need to check out this very, very awesome image.

• In this interview, Emilia Clarke, who plays Daenerys, said that her first day of shooting 'GoT' involved being on horseback with hundreds of extras. So I'm guessing her first day of shooting was the first Dothraki scene we saw in this episode. That may account for the fact that her eyebrows look terrible in that scene; I can only assume that the hair and makeup people hadn't quite figured out how to depict Dany's brows yet. They're too thick; they're simply distracting in that scene and not great in others. I expect HBO productions to have the highest possible standards in every arena, and in most arenas, 'GoT' looks good, great or fabulous. But I can't lie about the fact that Cersei's hair and Dany's brows look distractingly wrong in these early episodes.

• Speaking of that second-season renewal, I'm glad that 'Game of Thrones' will get more than one season to develop these characters and limn this world, but a recent EW story indicates that season 2 will have only 10 hours. If I've got one major issue with the series as it stands now, it's that, at times, it has to sacrifice character depth and moral complexity in order to simply set up and march through through plot and story. I'm frankly worried that season 2 won't have enough time to depict not just the events of 'A Clash of Kings' (the second novel in George R.R. Martin's 'Song of Ice and Fire' series) but to give us the kind of emotional and thematic richness that the novels contain. Any other fans have any worries on that season 2 front? Or was it just me that was hoping for 12 or 13 hours?

Finally, here are a few housekeeping notes. Please keep in mind that every commenter will be held to the standards set forth below.

• From last week's review, in case you missed it, here's how I'm writing these weekly reviews of the show. I'm writing this review without having seen the other four that HBO sent to the media. I didn't want to be ahead of you, the viewer, and I didn't want to have to try to forget what I've seen in subsequent episodes when I sat down to write weekly reviews.

So, over the last few weeks, my procedure was this: After I watched an episode twice, I wrote my review of that episode, then I went on to the next one. So at this point, you and I have both seen two episodes of 'Game of Thrones.' (I wrote my non-spoilery overall review of the show after watching all six episodes that HBO sent, and if the tone of that review strikes you as somewhat different from what you read here, remember that review contains my assessment of the show based on half a dozen episodes, not just two. I did write the final bullet point above more recently, after the show's season 2 renewal was announced.)

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buffyspikeshiper

I'm a little late with this comment but I've seen the episode at least twice now so here are a few thoughts from somebody who is not a newbie to this story (I have the first four books):

I have no problem whatsoever with Peter Dinklage's performance here. I think I know what he's doing with the affected accent. It's part of Tyrion's armor-the smooth, rather priggish and arrogant tone of an extremely educated and erudite man who, as he explains to Jon, must live by his brain...and part of that is how he expresses himself verbally. I am wondering if Dinklage will deliberately let the accent slip a bit if Tyrion gets under any real pressure-which is what Wayne Pygram used to do on "Farscape" whenever his Scorpius character began to lose control of a situation. On minute he would be speaking in an extremely educated British accent-the next he would be half growling. Accents are tricky things. I don't get bothered by them much by I know people who can't watch anything non-American because they can't understand the actors.

I am not particularly thrilled that the "it should have been you" line was cut but I understand their reasons for doing it. Cat apparently annoyed a lot of readers (I was not one of them) because of her intense dislike for Jon-which was perfectly understandable in the story and compared to other noble women-like, say Cersei Lannister, was fairly mild. They've given the character an older, tougher appearance, in the persona of her actress, Michelle Fairley so perhaps they felt the need to tone her down a little bit. I don't think they'll go as far as to make her "Saint Cat"-they'd have a lot of mistakes to gloss over.

The Dothraki/Danaerys sequences play out just fine for me-they seem to be sticking largely to the book, which is a good thing. When you have source material like this, it's best not to stray too far from it. They can do that in this season and get away with it. "Clash of Kings" might be a little harder to adapt, given its sprawling nature. I am not going to worry about whether they can pull it all off until we actually get to season two but I admit it could be a concern as to how to fit it all into 10 episodes.

Lena Headey, in this episode, shows just on the mark the decision to cast her as Cersei was. I've been getting a little sick and tired of her getting bashed, primarly because some 'fans' wanted Tricia Helfer in the role. Headey has Cersei down cold in just two episodes. In fact, all of the cast is fine with me. I didn't find out about this becoming a series until recently and I've never seriously thought about anybody for any particular role-although admittedly I think Kevin McKidd (Rome) would be ideal for Stannis Baratheon. Whoever they cast though I'm sure will be fine.

April 30 2011 at 10:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SinisterInfant

The "it should have been you" line was a must cut. So much of the turmoil that exists between Jon and Cat is setup in Jon's many inner monologue, that the show can't earn the level of true spite that Cat uses in the book. You can't get any of the back story that Jon gives us on his relationship with Cat, so that line would have seemed extremely out of place. Also I think they put Ned into the room in that scene specifically to help explain why Cat moderated her tone compared to the book. Even without it the Robb/Jon scene maintained all of its power even with less spite from Cat. The same can be said of the Honeymoon scene. The reason that the turn around on that scene in the book is so powerful, is because GRR has spent several chapters developing Dany's mindset and her background growing up with her brother. in the show we only have two scenes to setup that weird sibling relationship. We need the relationship with Drogo to exemplify her growth and eventual resolution of her's brother's bid for a crown.

The best part of this series in the books are the hard choices and unfortunate circumstances that the characters find themselves in. Its my biggest concern with this incarnation of the story. All of the characters need to be both loveable and hateable at any moment, and their true motivations hidden almost at all times. Tyrion is a great example. He is this very lovable underdog in this family of beautiful people that are all full of spite. Though quickly in GoT its revealed that Tyrion far from being the best of them, is likely the worst. The writing of this show seems to be struggling to portray the powerful duality of all of these characters (with the exception of Ned Stark, though of all the characters of the book he's the most straight forward). Its concerning mainly because the characters we have now are the easiest with their duality, just wait till we get to Littlefinger and Varys.

Some interesting removals in this episode:
~The King's brother Renly was in the scene where Arya is brought before the king. He adds a lot more humiliation to the Prince's reaction, which I think is needed to highlight the Prince's later reactions to the Stark Sisters.
~Where's Hodor? Shouldn't we have scene Hodor by now? Hodor?!
~Is Cat not taking a ship to King's Landing for the next episode? Will we jump right to the confrontation on the King's Road with her and the person she accuses of trying to kill Bran? They seem to indicate that they are taking the road in that scene in the Godswood.

April 26 2011 at 2:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Mo Ryan

Great points all. I think you hit upon something really important about the show so far -- that the whole book is about people who have to make difficult choices and who have differing impulses (survival, altruism, selfishness, sacrifice, love, hate). There's a lot of the *story* but not much about the grey areas of those choices.

Hodor's coming soon-ish. Not in the next episode, I believe. But soon :)

April 28 2011 at 2:38 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
Goblinmoon

Thank you for your perspective Mo! Like others here I must admit I am enjoying Dinklage's Tyrion. The accent doesn't bother me, but the Tyrion is 'to me at least' all about playing to the expectations of those around him, when it serves his purposes and then turning around and shoving those incorrect assumptions right back at you when it suits him. In that he fits the Lannister mold, just in his own way.

The relationship that I have been most disappointed in at this point is Sansa/Arya. Granted we know they are opposites, and they fight horribly, but this is becoming almost cliche. I'd like to see a little more depth here. While I agree that the river scene was not as strong as it could be, I was not entirely sold on the 'judgement' scene either. Though I agree Mr. Bean's performance was very good, and in that context I must also point out Mark Addy's as well. The look he shoots Ned tells of a warrior who's made some serious compromises and in many ways is just tired of it.

As to Cat, I have read the books, so I think they are handling her well in context of her character as is portrayed in them. Those who have not are not aware of the young woman she was before she married Ned Stark. There is a reason why she and her sister are the way they are. Nothing more said to avoid spoilers.

April 26 2011 at 2:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lynn Mathis

I have not read the books, but it seems odd to me that no one seems to have noticed that the children of the King (who are all pale, thin and blonde) seem to have come from a shallow gene pool. Given what the Queen and her brother have been up to and the fact that the King has dark hair, eyes and is a big man it seems they are being a bit obvious with what the Lannisters are up to.
I think the character of Tyrion is beautifully played. This has been one of the reasons I have hung in and continued to watch. I had high hopes for this show but it has not truly intrigued me ...yet. After reading Mo's words here I understand that perhaps there is too much material covered too quickly. I will continue to watch and hope that will change.
I was very disturbed by the killing of the wolf and hope there is a payoff somewhere in the future which will justify that action.

April 26 2011 at 9:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Edith Keeler

I did LOL at the scene of Catelyn going al Jessica Fletcher in the tower with the tell tale strand of hair.

I listened to the audiobook - brilliantly acted/read by Roy Dotrice -- and in that Tyrion has an extremely thick Welsh accent so perhaps because I have that distinctive voice in my head I'm not fussed by his enunciation here. The idea that Tyrion has accentuated his high birth with his posh voice to protect himself is plausible. A bit of a fanw**k sure, but plausible and I'm going with it.

If they were going to add scenes for nuance like Cersei at Bran's bedside its pretty unforgivable to me they have characterised Khal Drogo the way they have. Give them a scene at least that adds some character to the guy )especially since the wedding night stuff comes over worse on TV than written). I assume he will get some more scenes coming up but still, I really think they needed to put something in the first 2 hours.

April 26 2011 at 8:25 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Piecar

I love what Dinklage is doing with the role. I have not read the books, I just bought 'em the other day, so I don't know the character. But I think the dialogue in this episode reveals why he has this elaborate accent. He explains that he, to be relevant and not ill-considers, continues to read books and expand his mind. He uses the high brow affected accent as a way of showing how erudite and intelligent he is. It's a canny ploy, to my mind. Dinklage is a great actor and my favourite character, thus far. Sort of a dwarven Han Solo type in some respects, sort of a sage War Vet in others.

April 25 2011 at 6:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
The Hoobie

Hi Mo,
Because I know you've read the books, I'm wondering what your take is on the changes the show made to Dany and Drogo's wedding night. I had hoped that the second episode would (no pun intended) flesh out their wedding night so that it would be more like it was in the book, so I was disappointed to find that they hadn't done that. I found the scene in the book to be a lovely surprise, and it really lets the reader know how Martin is going to play with reader and genre expectations in setting up his world. (Not for nothing, it also shows that the Dothraki and their Khal are not simple barbarians.)

I do agree with you, though, that Cersei's speech in this episode was a good and strong addition.

(I should note that I started the first book over the holiday break and only got about 170 pages in---so just a little ahead of the action of the show at this point. I'm going to try to finish the book this week, before next week's episode. So I realize that I might not have the full picture of the book's portrayal of Daenerys and Drogo yet. It's just that that scene was a nice surprise and gave me a lot of hope that the book is going to do some cool, unexpected stuff, so I was bummed to see it changed.)

April 25 2011 at 5:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Mo Ryan

Good question re Khal Drogo. I think I agree with how the makers of the TV show depicted the wedding night. They needed to give the show somewhere to go with that relationship -- they needed to show that *Dany* was going to try to have more agency within the marriage. The whole story line is about Dany's growth into a powerful woman, and to have her change the sexual equation between them was one way to do that.

James Poniewozik describes my feelings on this matter well here:

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2011/04/25/game-of-thrones-watch-meet-the-parents/

Having said that, it does bother me that the Dothraki story line, as many have pointed out, is, at this point, basically a collection of "noble savage" cliches about dark-skinned people. The show could be doing a much better job on that front. Right now, the Dothraki story line is almost cartoonish.

April 26 2011 at 10:03 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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aerrin99

I agree with the points about needing to be clear about Dany's change, but it still grates on me that the only way they found to show her growth was to turn her husband into an uncaring barbarian. Part of Dany's growth in the books /is/ Drogo. In that wedding night, she sees for the first time that not every man will treat her as her brother has and that the world has possibilities. And she still takes control of that sexual equation - the scene with her handmaid wasn't made up, after all! That first glimpse with Drogo is a big part of what drives her to realize that she might have something more here than she had first thought, that her marraige into this culture may not be a bad thing, and that different isn't necessarily bad - nor is familiar good.

My problem with the changing of that scene - and with the early scene in this episode where we again see Dany near tears while Drogo pumps unthinking behind her - is not with Dany's character arc, which I think will come out fine, but with the Dothrakis'. That wedding night scene really set up some twists for how you think of the entire culture, and all of that has been lost behind broad-stroked cliches in the show. Even the maid who teaches her how to please a khal is clearly not Dothraki.

It's not the end of the world, but it is intensely disappointing.

April 26 2011 at 4:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down
Doth Raki

Speaking of cliches about dark-skinned people, how about the dark-skinned guy passing up all of the dark-skinned ladies to be with the white, bleach-blonde "virgin?"

April 27 2011 at 12:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down
Dan O'Connor

Don't give up, Mo: it's perhaps not set in stone that "Clash" will be 10 eps.

GRRM speculates on its length in an interview with Empire magazine here (admittedly, before season 2 was ordered):

http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1251

"It's yet to be determined if they do the second season how many episodes that will have. Maybe ten again, or maybe they'll give us twelve. I think the crux will come if we get a third season. Storm of Swords is a gigantic book, it's five hundred pages longer than Clash of Kings, which is itself a hundred pages longer than Game of Thrones. So you're talking six hundred extra pages compared to Game of Thrones. I don't think they can do that in one season, unless they do a season in 20 episodes. So I think they're gonna have to break that one into two."

Having a two-season "Storm of Swords" would be incredible.

Agree with you on the "It should have been you" line. If they'd allowed her to say that, we'd have finished episode 2 feeling more sympathy for *Cersei* than for Cat. And that would've been weird.

April 25 2011 at 5:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Mo Ryan

Totally agreed, Dan, re Cat.

I think you're right -- though HBO execs have said it'll be a 10 ep season, I wonder if the GoT producers might yet be able to convince them they need 11 or 12. It could happen. I hope so. Fingers crossed!

I think Storm of Swords has to be 2 seasons, don't you? Hope so.

April 26 2011 at 10:05 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
mowargmr

I'm new to the series.

I thought this episode really helped clarify who was who, and helped explain some of the nuances I wasn't understanding last week. I was much more entertained this week, and I hope others didn't get "lost" in the premiere and decide to move on.

So, I'm wondering--so far my favorite characters are "the imp", "the bastard," and the deposed princess, who I hope has her brother killed at some point (don't tell me!!!).

Am I way off base for finding these characters to be likeable?

I really don't like Mrs. Stark (Ned's wife). I understand her "position" with regards to Snow, but from the show's perspective, she seems very unilateral about him, despite his clear love for her children. I'd find it more appealing if she were to have "made lemonade" over the situation and events that occurred, what, 18 years prior?

April 25 2011 at 3:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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mkmosby@consultant.com

Mo, u are seemingly flying blind in relation to Cersei and her scene with Cat. Her "little bird without wings" quip was a direct dig at Cat. She was referencing BRAN!!!! She is a monster, a liar and a pure hypocrite. The BS about her lil "dark-haired boy" was really about her taking pleasure in Cat's misery.

I think Peter Dinklage was born to play Tyrion and I am loving every second of him. The much needed slapping around of Joff should be the beginning of making him a hero in every viewers heart.

And the cutting of "it should have been you" is simply unforgivable. My issue with the entire Cat Stark transformation in the series is the turning of her from a complex, sometimes weak-willed woman who tends to make huge mistakes for emotional reasons, they are turning her into Saint Cat. The true appeal of ASOAIF is the fact that it's about people with failings, some great, some minor. Turning it into a story about the angelic Starks versus the horrible Lannisters is a HUGE mistake IMO.

April 25 2011 at 3:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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mowargmr

I don't mean I like the queen, I mean the sister that was forced to marry the barbarian warlord.

I did catch the "without wings" dig. Clearly not a nice person...

I'm not sure what you mean by the "it should have been you" comment. I think I'm not recalling the circumstance for that.

Thanks for the reply!

April 25 2011 at 3:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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