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Talking TV Podcast Takes on 'The Office' and Reader Questions

by Maureen Ryan, posted Apr 27th 2011 3:00PM
This week's podcast has a slightly different format: We only talk about one show at length.

The first 17 minutes are devoted to 'The Office' and Steve Carell's exit from it (which I wrote about here). The rest of the conversation between Ryan McGee and myself is devoted to large number of reader questions.

A more detailed timeline is below. But don't forget, I'm still accepting questions here for a future Ask Mo column.



0 - 17: 'The Office'

17 - 20:45: What are the odds of 'Lone Star' and other canceled shows coming out on DVD?

20:46 - 26:25: Talking 'The Chicago Code.'

26:26 - 33:14: Why aren't we doing a separate podcast on 'Game of Thrones' or any other current show?

33:15 - 33:55: Will we ever talk about 'Friday Night Lights' once Ryan finishes it?

33:56 - 41:17: Talking animated TV. I reveal that one of my new favorite shows is Cartoon Network's 'Regular Show.' We also mention 'Bob's Burgers' and a few other animated programs.

41:18 - 50:07: Was '30 Rock's' 100th episode overshadowed by a similarly themed episode of 'Community' that aired the same night? We also talk about this essay Ryan recently wrote about 'Community,' responses to the show and its fans.

50:08 - 55: Dramas that would work as comedies and vice versa.

55:01 - 59:09: What do we think of jumping into second (or even third) seasons of a show without watching what came before? We mention 'Treme,' 'Justified' and a few other shows in the course of this discussion.

59:10 - end: "Why do you get so emo over people disagreeing with your reviews? Then again, you also like Spartacus, so that answers that..."

We know that the questioner meant that last part of his query ironically (he's actually a 'Spartacus' fan), but in this last segment, Ryan and I talk about various responses to our reviews, and why some of those responses can occasionally be hard to take (it's probably not for the reasons you think -- we definitely don't mind people disagreeing with our reviews).

We also talk about how we see people (critics and readers) throwing around phrases like, "Well, at least it's not 'Spartacus'" when they're discussing TV, as if that phrase is some kind of shorthand reference to meant to connote exploitative, dumb, thoughtless programming. It's my personal theory that the people throwing around those kinds of derogatory references to the Starz show or its advocates haven't seen 'Spartacus,' or have only seen the first episode or two of the show's first season, which even the drama's creator will admit aren't that great. The show got much, much better -- it's a favorite of mine for both its entertainment value and for its seriousness of purpose -- and people who haven't seen complete seasons of 'Spartacus' and don't know what they're talking about should stop tossing around phrases like that.

OK, end of rant. Unless you want to listen to it on the podcast too, heh.

Some folks had mentioned that our podcast RSS feed was messed up; sorry for the technical difficulties. Never fear, we have a new RSS feed here.

Don't forget you can subscribe to the Talking TV podcast on iTunes. This week's podcast is also available here, as are full archives of every 'Talking TV' podcast. The entire 'Talking TV' archives are also available on iTunes as well.

Thank you for listening, and for your excellent questions!

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Studioplant

I can easily relate to your dilemma of people’s reaction to you liking Spartacus even though they may have only seen an episode or two if any at all. I face similar reactions when I tell people I am a Fundamental Reformed Christian. People can easily jump to very wrong conclusions with way to little information or just plain wrong information.

April 28 2011 at 1:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Donnie

Regarding Lone Star:

They showed the four unaired episodes at film festivals, according to the Twitter account of Kyle Killen, so they apparently finished post-production.

April 28 2011 at 10:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Donnie

Regarding Lone Star:

They showed the four unaired episodes at film festivals, according to the Twitter account Kyle Killen, so they apparently finished post-production.

April 28 2011 at 10:43 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
TAUSIF

Thanks for making the non-itunes mp3 available.

April 28 2011 at 1:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
TAUSIF

Ryan what is your formspring account name?

April 28 2011 at 1:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Craig Ranapia

""Why do you get so emo over people disagreeing with your reviews? "

Emo? I think the question was meant to be a tad snarky, but I think you're entitled to get a bit impatient with people who accuse you of writing in bad faith, don't bother putting a contrary argument and sometimes get vulgar and downright abusive. Don't know about anyone else, but I think some of the best pieces you and Ryan have written are the ones I totally disagree with. Being exposed to a well-written, passionately argued (and civil) contrary opinion makes me a more thoughtful and well-rounded viewer. Heavens forbid that I don't actually have the monopoly on insight and wisdom in this 'verse.

April 27 2011 at 6:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Craig Ranapia

"Some folks had mentioned that our podcast RSS feed was messed up; sorry for the technical difficulties. Never fear, we have a new RSS feed here."

Yay -- it works like a dream! Sorry for getting a bit bitey about the last one, but I'm on the Ryan & Ryan crack and need my fix. :)

"What do we think of jumping into second (or even third) seasons of a show without watching what came before? "

Sometimes, I think it's a very good idea. Very few shows get everything right from the get-go, but some (yes I'm looking at 'Supernatural') start off so badly, I wouldn't inflict their growing pains on anyone. And, really, if you skip the first season of 'Fringe' have you really missed anything relating to the show's mythology you couldn't find out -- and have a better time doing it -- with a well-designed Google search?

April 27 2011 at 5:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Mo Ryan

Excellent point. I think in some cases it's better to skip first seasons, or whole chunks of them. When people want to begin Supernatural from the beginning, I always supply them with a laundry list of S1 episodes they should skip -- if they don't, they might get tired of the show before they really get to the good stuff! Though I always recommend the episode Route 66 just for giggle value.

April 28 2011 at 10:58 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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