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Talking TV Podcast on 'The Big C,' 'Weeds' and 'Necessary Roughness' (Plus a Bonus Rant)

by Maureen Ryan, posted Jun 30th 2011 3:30PM
Before the holiday weekend got underway, Ryan McGee and I recorded a podcast focusing on three June shows: 'The Big C,' 'Weeds' and 'Necessary Roughness.'

There's also a bit of a rant from Mo about the reaction to 'The Killing' (no, I'm not ranting once again about the show itself, just about a certain kind of reaction to it).

We round off the podcast with Mo's answer to Ryan's Bonus Birthday Question. What's the question? Well, you'll just have to tune in to find out.

Running times are below.

Here are the time codes for the various discussions:

'Necessary Roughness': 0:00 -17:17

'Weeds': 31:18 - 26:55

'The Big C': 26:55 - 37:05

Mo's Commenting/Debating Pet Peeve (one that was in evidence after 'The Killing' finale aired): 37:05 - 49:24

Mo's Birthday Question: 49:24 - end


As always, you can grab the podcast from iTunes (where you can also subscribe) or you can get this week's podcast from the Talking TV home site.

Full archives of every 'Talking TV' podcast are available here. The entire 'Talking TV' archives are also available on iTunes. Our RSS feed is here.

Happy Fourth of July! See you next week, when we'll reconvene to talk 'Torchwood.'

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Anne

Thank you, Mo!! Your birthday rant hit on a subject that was driving me bonkers too! I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one being bothered by that. You really do scare me sometimes with how often you say exactly what I was thinking! Happy Belated Birthday!

July 01 2011 at 6:54 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
alanbyn

Hi mo love the podcast but cant listen to it. Pickemonkey has no conversion of it and the rss feed has not updated for this podcast or the previous couple of podcasts and i am unable to use itunes.
Is there anywhere i can get the latest podcasts in mp3 form?

July 01 2011 at 4:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Captain Spork

Happy belated birthday. Love the podcast, just started listening a few months ago but I can tell you guys love talking about TV.

I think the "Wire/Reality," comeback has become quite pervasive throughout the interwebs but is particularly prominent in TV commentary because of the sheer time investment angle. I ran a Lost fansite and podcast for roughly four years so I'm familiar with all kinds of internet-based trolling.

On one level "The Wire/reality," comeback provides viewers that lack the written/verbal skills to quickly or concisely compose their arguments a quick defense. On your site you do a good job of trying to keep things from devolving into simplistic sniping but the vast majority of TV comment sections are going to be filled with "I loved it" or "I hated it."

When a comment section fills up with the inevitable piling on of "Wow. That sucked hard," the Wire/Reality comments are equally inevitable. It's still a childish and lazy response but I think most of the time it's just used out of misplaced anger or frustration. After investing in 13 or 100 episodes of a TV show some viewers are going to take it personally that others not only don't share their view of the show but find it to be stupid or a waste of time. If you really liked a certain TV show and grow weary of reading countless eviscerations on the subject you're going to come to its defense in whatever way you can. Mostly the sheer volume of simplistic "hated," or "loved it," statements are going to overshadow the well though out responses and will eventually push a viewer that was likely to have a thoughtful debate into the "Wire/Reality" comeback. Sometimes when we lack the patience and insight necessary to debate we lash out. Again, it's childish but its also human nature.

It's unfortunate but I think it's just part of the landscape of public debate. Instead of having informative discussions about a piece of entertainment every show must "rock" or "suck." Hopefully this site and others dedicated to actually appreciating the artistry of TV will continue to do so.

Thanks again for the great podcast.

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June 30 2011 at 11:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
aamadis

Happy Birthday Mo! I hope this doesn't come off as too snarky (it's not meant to be) but my wish for you on this day is that you'll feel confident enough in your views and perceptions, as a professional critic, that you won't feel the need to set aside so much time responding to people who disagree with you and explaining yourself. You're paid to have an opinion, and that's what most of us are here to hear. Yes there will always be commenters who bring the level of conversation down, but I think that giving so much attention to this sort of thing just lends more weight to that sort of discussion. You're a great critic. You have good ideas and you support your opinions well. Everyone may not always agree with you, but it's not necessary to spend so much time defending yourself against people who don't have an argument in the first place.

June 30 2011 at 8:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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fosterco52135

I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of confidence. Internet boards are a frustrating place where the faceless are usually allowed to tear down the opinions of others quite cruelly. Mo has tried to make her site a place where discussions/arguments can be productive. Besides, what better time to rant than on a birthday? Happy 21, Mo!

July 01 2011 at 1:12 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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aamadis

Which is exactly my point. There will always be faceless people tearing down others opinions. That's not going to change. But giving them added attention just throws fuel on the fire. Best to ignore ridiculous comments for the most part and keep the productive discussions going.

July 01 2011 at 3:17 AM Report abuse rate up rate down
foodlover

there should be a podcast for Extreme Chef instead!

June 30 2011 at 6:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Studioplant

I am an extremely obnoxious person and now I have to resist the urge to say, “You do not understand…” every time I post on this site. Happy Birthday!

June 30 2011 at 4:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Craig Ranapia

You're welcome, Mo! It's much easier to offer birthday felicitations when you constantly step up to be my favourite waste of time. :) You are, and remain, a scholar, a gentleman and a pleasure to disagree with. (A bit of advice: Skip the light beer and go straight to making out with boys. Much more fun.)

June 30 2011 at 4:10 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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