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Tea Party Debate Gets Weird as Audience Cheers Idea of Uninsured Man Dying (VIDEO)

by Alex Moaba, posted Sep 13th 2011 10:25AM

When CNN decided to name its second Republican Party debate the Tea Party Debate, you just knew things were bound to get weird. But in an evening that featured ten minutes worth of heated discussion about the HPV vaccine as the vultures circled newly-crowned frontrunner Rick Perry, one unsettling incident stood out out as the signature moment of the evening. Televised debates rarely veer into such dramatic -- and unsettling -- territory.

CNN moderator Wolf Blitzer posed a hypothetical question about health care to libertarian Texas Congressman Ron Paul: say a 30-year-old man gets struck with a catastrophic illness, but has made the choice to not buy healthcare. Who should pay for his care, if he's, say, in a coma?

Harking back to his campaign's themes of personal responsibility and minimal government, Paul started to answer that the man had made a choice to go without healthcare, and it wasn't society's responsibility to foot the bill. "That's what freedom is all about, taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to prepare and take care of everybody" is the basis of a "welfare state," he said, drawing big applause from the crowd.

"But Congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?" asked Blitzer.

And that's when a significantly smaller portion of the audience started clapping and yelling, "Yeah!" It was hard to tell if it was just a few, very loud people who were rooting for this hypothetical man to die, or a wider portion of the audience, but it was a strange, chilling moment nonetheless. Paul went on to say no, the man should not be left to die, expressing confidence that he would be saved by some combination of volunteerism, churches contributing to the man's care and hospitals treating people for free. But the optics, and audio, of the moment overrode anything else he said.

Check out the video after the jump, and tell us what you think the moment means.



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JAY

Do we honestly expect the fed.govt to be everything to everyone????...while it continues to spend millions of tax dollars DAILY to pay for these endless wars? While it spend billions to shoot rockets into space to drill into the moon??? While taxpayers pay billions on this 40 plus year bogus war on drugs??? I believe common sense should tell us that we have to get our prioritiesin order, change policies, bring our troops home, and create jobs that provide a "living" wage. There is no doubt the current system is broken, but we must realize we have a severely bloated government currently and we aren't sitting on the end of a rainbow.
For the record Ron Paul said "NO" when he asked "so you are saying society should just let him die?"
Watch out for the spin doctors.

September 14 2011 at 1:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Prost LAdies

This headline is completely out of context. If you would all take a minute to listen to what Paul is actually saying you'd understand. Everything in our government is cause and effect. There are so many reasons why our country is falling apart and 90% of it is due to people not taking responsibility for themselves. Grow up and take care of yourself and stop relying on the government to coddle you. The government is not your mom, its time to move out of the basement.

September 13 2011 at 8:26 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
Sandi

I cannot believe our country has come to this. I watched the President make his jobs bill speech and one thing stood out to me. The Speaker of the House was not wearing a U.S. Flag pin, nor did he stand up once until the end. He stayed seated when his own party were standing up and applauding what the president had to say
Now, one more thing. I am so tired of people bashing Barak Obama. Remember this. He is our elected president and even if you cannot stand the man, respect the OFFICE. Please.

September 13 2011 at 6:04 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
mudshark10

My husband worked from the time he was 17 years old till the age of 58 when he was layed off in Sept. '08. In order to keep insurance thru COBRA we needed to make payments of $1400 A MONTH! How does one do that when u have no income? So when he was diagnosed with stage IV cancer 6 months later, in March '09, I guess these so called fellow human beings would have preferred he just crawled away and died. So much for having any compassion for his pain and suffering, huh? It wasnt a choice not to have insurance for the first time in 31 years, it was circumstances of life. AND HE WAS A REPUBLICAN!

September 13 2011 at 3:11 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
Brett Alan

What really gets me is that the right was all complaining about "death panels" in health care reform, when of course the real "death panels" were at insurance companies. And the media played right into the right's hands.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if instead of the 30-year old man dying, it had been his 6 year old son or daughter.

September 13 2011 at 2:27 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
tutularu

tea bags are the sorriest people on the planet. they do not have a humanitarian bone in any of their bodies. no one should tolerate them in any capacity...ron paul is souless.

September 13 2011 at 1:57 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
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usr

You're kidding right? Did you miss the part about him saying that the doctors and the churches would volunteer their time and their efforts to take care of such people? If that's not humanitarian, I don't know what is! All Dr. Paul is saying is that the government shouldn't do it, the PEOPLE should do it.

September 13 2011 at 2:05 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
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VectorVictor99

Folks are shocked that an astroturf political movement funded by the millionaire Koch Brothers (who, incidentally, were born into luxury), cheers and embraces the death of a hypothetical patient because they didn't purchase health care?

There's a reason the real, moderate Republicans are wanting these RINOs gone, and it's because their brand of crazy has gone from cute to dangerous in the blink of an eye.

September 13 2011 at 1:36 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
ironcladd88

Very simple...Ignorance is bliss! The republican party are so hard nosed on their views and contradictory of their Christian based beliefs! The question is would you let the man die?....If you were a true Christian..you would not because Jesus would not! But yet republicans would turn their cheek and say...he made his choice, he has to deal with that consequence. Whats really funny is these republicans would be looking for a handout from the Government or they would blame government for not helping if that tragic situation suddenly happened to them. Especially the ones who yelled in the audience "Yeah!" I am a Christian and God forgive me for saying this but I wish this fate on all the ones who believe in that process...that Government should just stay out of peoples lives and they Americans deal with their own fate. I pray that these republicans are put in that very situation....themselves or a loved one is in need for immediate medical care and they are turned away because they have chosen their ignorant view!

September 13 2011 at 1:29 PM Report abuse +5 rate up rate down Reply
Denise

A real "winner" there.

September 13 2011 at 1:16 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
Roy Beasley

These are the same people who love to show off their "Christianity" , making a show of saying prayers so other mean will see. Jesus called them hypocrits.

September 13 2011 at 1:05 PM Report abuse +5 rate up rate down Reply

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