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Talking TV Podcast Talks 'Walking Dead,' 'Terra Nova,' 'Sons of Anarchy' and More

by Maureen Ryan, posted Dec 1st 2011 3:45PM
It's mostly zombies, dinosaurs and bikers in the latest edition of the Talking TV with Ryan and Ryan podcast.

Ryan McGee and I kicked things off by mentioning a few shows that premiere this week ('The Take,' 'Trek Nation' and 'Weed Wars'). By the way, you can find plenty of other notable December specials and such in this post.

We also talked a little about 'I Hate My Teenage Daughter,' but in a much longer section of the podcast, we discussed the state of genre television and in particular the disappointing first season of 'Terra Nova' and the very uneven second season of 'The Walking Dead.'

Then it was all 'Sons of Anarchy' all the time, as we discussed the latest installment of FX's biker drama. Running times are below.

0:00 - 13:03: 'The Take,' 'Trek Nation,' 'Weed Wars'

13:03 - 20:12: 'I Hate My Teenage Daughter' (I wrote about the new Fox show here.)

20:12 - 49:49: 'Terra Nova' and 'The Walking Dead,' with mentions of 'Falling Skies' and other genre or genre-influenced shows. Listen for the moment in which we invent what could well be the best TV show ever. (I wrote about 'The Walking Dead's' mid-season finale here.)

49:49 - end: 'Sons of Anarchy' (I wrote about the most recent episode here.)

Don't forget that you can grab the podcasts from iTunes (where you can also subscribe) or you can get this week's discussion from the Talking TV home site.

Full archives of every 'Talking TV' podcast are available here. The entire 'Talking TV' archives are also available on iTunes. Our RSS feed is here.

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Once again these two show what idiots they are. Terra Nova is not a terrible show. These idiots want it to be an adult scifi drama and it's not so they bash it. Real professional. And I guess since Mo's 9 year old doesn't likable either, it must be terrible. And the comments about Taylor were idiotic as well. You're forming a new society in a hostile world, you need a dictator. There no time to debate morality. Decisions need made now.

And would Mo Ryan get please get off of her fem-Nazi soapbox. Do a little research. Sexism is all but dead in the workplace. Women are making as much as men. Women are CEO's. I think Mo is the one that's sexist.

December 10 2011 at 2:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

Maureen, I love your work. Please do not eat/chew gum/whatever. I struggled to listen.

December 06 2011 at 3:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

Stop eating!!! So annoying.

December 06 2011 at 8:31 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Karen Galvez

Is someone chewing gum during this recording? Crazy distracting.

December 02 2011 at 7:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I beg to differ, about Tara: Her slide began with the murder of her stalker, which she participated in. Tara could lie to herself, afterward, but she was part of the club as soon as she depended on Jax to always protect her, after that.

Her premeditation, about Clay, is a defeat because the one thing she wanted -- getting out clean -- will now never happen. She's implicated in so many crimes that a simple background check would defeat her getting work anywhere else. I think the show ignored this aspect of her life, to give us a false sense of hope about her exit strategy, but sooner or later, even before her hand injury, she'd have to face just how tainted her life now was, and ever would be, even if she hadn't given birth to Jax' child. She also wanted to be better than Gemma, without having to show her hand in the competition; saying "I'm smarter than you" is a defeat, because if she was, Gemma would never know -- Tara would be that, in the straight life, with access to privileges Gemma could never get.

The difference is now Tara doesn't give a frak. She used to, about the straight life, but now she can't even be bothered with pretense. "Tell me you love me" is more a cynical, deadened comment about the Tara who needed that -- love from Jax, respect from Gemma -- who now knows those sentiments aren't worth a damn with people who lie and kill for a living. What she has with Jax is now an animal thing -- the being whose teeth are biggest, who's father to your children -- more than a "building a future" thing.

As for Tara surviving the next episode, what makes sense -- an old lady surviving, defanged, because she's killed both her husbands in a misogynist world, or a new old lady resplendent, holding on to her man, with the old queen (viz. Richard III) still being massively toxic and influential? Methinks Tara won't die, but she'll wish she did.

As for Charming, who cares? No one really does -- it's corrupt, all the way down, even to the prosecution, Sin City without the heightened design....

December 01 2011 at 4:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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